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Nationalist Man
05-25-2005, 11:51 PM
I don't like Helen Thomas' political views, but do admire her as being one of the few "reporters" in the corporate media willing to challenge powerful individuals in the Bush administration. She had the following exchange today with White House spokesman Scott McClellan:


Q The other day -- in fact, this week, you said that we, the United States, is in Afghanistan and Iraq by invitation. Would you like to correct that incredible distortion of American history --

MR. McCLELLAN: No, we are -- that's where we currently --

Q -- in view of your credibility is already mired? How can you say that?

MR. McCLELLAN: Helen, I think everyone in this room knows that you're taking that comment out of context. There are two democratically-elected governments in Iraq and --

Q Were we invited into Iraq?

MR. McCLELLAN: There are two democratically-elected governments now in Iraq and Afghanistan, and we are there at their invitation. They are sovereign governments, and we are there today --

Q You mean if they had asked us out, that we would have left?

MR. McCLELLAN: No, Helen, I'm talking about today. We are there at their invitation. They are sovereign governments -- Q I'm talking about today, too.

MR. McCLELLAN: -- and we are doing all we can to train and equip their security forces so that they can provide for their own security as they move forward on a free and democratic future. Q Did we invade those countries?

MR. McCLELLAN: Go ahead, Steve.


The Emperor doesn't dare call on Helen Thomas at any of his mostly scripted -- and rare -- press conferences. Helen is around 80 years old. Sen. Robert Byrd, the only Senator who dared to challenge the lies of the administration's war of aggression against Iraq, is also in his 80s. Apparently the day isn't far off when there will be nobody left in Washington who dares to challenge the permanent regime.



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Wolfram
06-06-2005, 10:02 PM
I don't like Helen Thomas' political views, but do admire her as being one of the few "reporters" in the corporate media willing to challenge powerful individuals in the Bush administration. She had the following exchange today with White House spokesman Scott McClellan:


Q The other day -- in fact, this week, you said that we, the United States, is in Afghanistan and Iraq by invitation. Would you like to correct that incredible distortion of American history --

MR. McCLELLAN: No, we are -- that's where we currently --

Q -- in view of your credibility is already mired? How can you say that?

MR. McCLELLAN: Helen, I think everyone in this room knows that you're taking that comment out of context. There are two democratically-elected governments in Iraq and --

Q Were we invited into Iraq?

MR. McCLELLAN: There are two democratically-elected governments now in Iraq and Afghanistan, and we are there at their invitation. They are sovereign governments, and we are there today --

Q You mean if they had asked us out, that we would have left?

MR. McCLELLAN: No, Helen, I'm talking about today. We are there at their invitation. They are sovereign governments -- Q I'm talking about today, too.

MR. McCLELLAN: -- and we are doing all we can to train and equip their security forces so that they can provide for their own security as they move forward on a free and democratic future. Q Did we invade those countries?

MR. McCLELLAN: Go ahead, Steve.


The Emperor doesn't dare call on Helen Thomas at any of his mostly scripted -- and rare -- press conferences. Helen is around 80 years old. Sen. Robert Byrd, the only Senator who dared to challenge the lies of the administration's war of aggression against Iraq, is also in his 80s. Apparently the day isn't far off when there will be nobody left in Washington who dares to challenge the permanent regime.


I've never been a big fan of Ralph Nader, but he seems to be one of the very few who are willing to take on the Republicrat-Demopublican machine. I didn't watchhis C-SPAN appearance yesterday, but I understand he really "told it like it is." Unfortunately, he also is in his seventies.


I remember Senator Byrd's special orders talk, "I weep for my country" two years ago. It's really amazing how the Bush-neocon message changes; first, it was weapons of mass destruction. When no WMD were found, it was to remove Saddam Hussein. Now it's to establish democracy worldwide.


IMHO, establishing democracy, like charity, begins at home...although it was really a constitutional republic the founding fathers had in mind--not a democracy.&n bsp;&n bsp;&n bsp;&n bsp;&n bsp;&n bsp;&n bsp;&n bsp;&n bsp;&n bsp;&n bsp;&n bsp;&n bsp;&n bsp;&n bsp;









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<DIV align=left>The 'I' Word: Impeachment </DIV></TD></TR>
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<TD>The impeachment of President Bush and Vice President Cheney, under Article II, Section 4 of the Constitution, should be part of mainstream political discourse.


Minutes from a summer 2002 meeting involving British Prime Minister Tony Blair reveal that the Bush administration was ''fixing" the intelligence to justify invading Iraq. US intelligence used to justify the war demonstrates repeatedly the truth of the meeting minutes -- evidence was thin and needed fixing.


President Clinton was impeached for perjury about his sexual relationships. Comparing Clinton's misbehavior to a destructive and costly war occupation launched in March 2003 under false pretenses in violation of domestic and international law certainly merits introduction of an impeachment resolution.


Eighty-nine members of Congress have asked the president whether intelligence was manipulated to lead the United States to war. The letter points to British meeting minutes that raise ''troubling new questions regarding the legal justifications for the war." Those minutes describe the case for war as ''thin" and Saddam as ''nonthreatening to his neighbors," and ''Britain and America had to create conditions to justify a war." Finally, military action was ''seen as inevitable . . . But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy."


Indeed, there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, nor any imminent threat to the United States:


The International Atomic Energy Agency Iraq inspection team reported in 1998, ''there were no indications of Iraq having achieved its program goals of producing a nuclear weapon; nor were there any indications that there remained in Iraq any physical capability for production of amounts of weapon-usable material." A 2003 update by the IAEA reached the same conclusions.


The CIA told the White House in February 2001: ''We do not have any direct evidence that Iraq has . . . reconstitute[d] its weapons of mass destruction programs."


Colin Powell said in February 2001 that Saddam Hussein ''has not developed any significant capability with respect to weapons of mass destruction."


The CIA told the White House in two Fall 2002 memos not to make claims of Iraq uranium purchases. CIA Director George Tenet personally called top national security officials imploring them not to use that claim as proof of an Iraq nuclear threat.


Regarding unmanned bombers highlighted by Bush, the Air Force's National Air and Space Intelligence Center concluded they could not carry weapons spray devices. The Defense Intelligence Agency told the president in June 2002 that the unmanned aerial bombers were unproven. Further, there was no reliable information showing Iraq was producing or stockpiling chemical weapons or whether it had established chemical agent production facilities.


When discussing WMD the CIA used words like ''might" and ''could." The case was always circumstantial with equivocations, unlike the president and vice president, e.g., Cheney said on Aug. 26, 2002: ''Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction."


The State Department in 2003 said: ''The activities we have detected do not . . . add up to a compelling case that Iraq is currently pursuing . . . an integrated and comprehensive approach to acquire nuclear weapons."


The National Intelligence Estimate issued in October 2002 said ''We have no specific intelligence information that Saddam's regime has directed attacks against US territory."


The UN, IAEA, the State and Energy departments, the Air Force's National Air and Space Intelligence Center, US inspectors, and even the CIA concluded there was no basis for the Bush-Cheney public assertions. Yet, President Bush told the public in September 2002 that Iraq ''could launch a biological or chemical attack in as little as 45 minutes after the order is given." And, just before the invasion, President Bush said: ''Facing clear evidence of peril, we cannot wait for the final proof -- the smoking gun -- that could come in the form of a mushroom cloud."


The president and vice president have artfully dodged the central question: ''Did the administration mislead us into war by manipulating and misstating intelligence concerning weapons of mass destruction and alleged ties to Al Qaeda, suppressing contrary intelligence, and deliberately exaggerating the danger a contained, weakened Iraq posed to the United States and its neighbors?"


If this is answered affirmatively Bush and Cheney have committed ''high crimes and misdemeanors." It is time for Congress to investigate the illegal Iraq war as we move toward the third year of the endless quagmire that many security experts believe jeopardizes US safety by recruiting and training more terrorists. A Resolution of Impeachment would be a first step. Based on the mountains of fabrications, deceptions, and lies, it is time to debate the ''I" word.


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Don Wassall
06-07-2005, 08:15 PM
I have a lot of respect for Ralph Nader. Really, in 2000 there was very little difference between what he was saying and what Pat Buchanan was saying, mainly because Buchanan as usual was fence-straddling instead of talking about immigration, race and Israel. By 2004, Nader was saying stronger things about the detrimental power of the Israel Lobby than Buchanan ever has.


Nader would be a vast improvement over any of the Presidents we've had since at least FDR and the establishment of the "New Deal," but like Buchanan his time isnow most likelypast.

Michael
06-07-2005, 11:22 PM
Even if Nader’s and Buchanan’s time has past, it is just the cycle and
new alternative leaders are coming forth. It is only a matter of
time before younger stronger leaders emerge to lead the opposition to
the New World Order.