Votescam: rigged and stolen elections

[Nelson]

This just in from Rebekah Sutherland, our longtime associate in SC and veteran of several major campaigns for state office.


PRESS RELEASE ** FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
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<DIV>Date: May 21, 2007</DIV>
<DIV>Contact: R.E. Sutherland, M.Ed./sciences</DIV>
<DIV>email: @gmail.com (becworks@gmail.com)</DIV>
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<DIV>Guess who counts the Primary votes?</DIV>
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<DIV>In 1998, when I ran for the SC Supt. of Education in the Republican Primary, I learned that ONLY the Chairman of any political party is responsible for the vote count in a primary or convention. In fact, I received the information in a letter from the Election Commissioner in 1998 when I asked how a candidate could request a vote recount after a primary. </DIV>
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<DIV>There is NO OVERSIGHT.</DIV>
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<DIV>I also watched strawpoll boxes get stuffed with photocopied votes . . . many, many times . . .which would put the party's chosen candidate in the lead and get media attention.</DIV>
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<DIV>The night of the Primary vote, no one was allowed into the room where 3 men sat staring at a computer. We never saw the votes, nor were we allowed to watch them come into the headquarters. SHHHHH, it was a secret!!!! Yeah, right. </DIV>
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<DIV>BOTTOM LINE: The political primaries are ALL RIGGED BY BIG MONEY. The party bosses ALREADY KNOW who the winner will be.Your vote does not count. You have been shanghaied . . . that means made into a slave . . . and the IRS is in on the take. </DIV>
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<DIV>Why do the party bosses hold the primaries? </DIV>
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<DIV>Because it keeps the newspaper editors and television owners inbusiness . . . and feeding out of the Political Party pantry. The Party sends out the battle cry and everyone pours money into the pot without ever demanding accountability for the vote counts. </DIV>
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<DIV>The presseswould have folded long ago, if it were not for the money spent by candidates on their respective interests.</DIV>
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<DIV>That is why Dr. Ron Paul is getting pushed away . . . he is revealing the culprits behind the scam. </DIV>
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<DIV>Just like on the Wizard of Oz, when little Dorothy pulled back the curtain to reveal a teeny little man making lots of noise, Dr. Paul is speaking the truth about an untruth in our nation. We need to help Dr. Paul pull back the curtain in every state and expose this travesty. </DIV>
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<DIV>Now you know all the rest of thestory . . . go tell someone . . . and get very, very mad. [end]</DIV>
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<DIV></DIV></DIV>Edited by: Nelson

[Michael]

Rigged elections is the Zionist DEMOCRACY of the New World Order!


I heard that my Grandmother who worked at the polls said that the results that they sent in were not what appeared as the official vote count.

[Adolar]

Brings to mind what Josef Stalin is alleged to have said many years ago:


"Who gets to vote means nothing; who COUNTSthe votes means everything!"

[Nelson]

A very, VERY important comment, that.


I explained my abstention from voting here


http://www.anu.org/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=587&amp;PN=1


and here's law professor Butler Shaffer to offer an even more jaundiced view.(Is he Jewish? He writes like it, and seems to take inspiration from good Irish boy H.L. Mencken.smileys/smiley2.gif)


http://www.lewrockwell.com/shaffer/shaffer147.html


The Voting Ritual


What is the ballot? It is neither more nor less than a paper representative of the bayonet, the billy, and the bullet. It is a labor-saving device for ascertaining on which side force lies and bowing to the inevitable. The voice of the majority saves bloodshed, but it is no less the arbitrament of force than is the decree of the most absolute of despots backed by the most powerful of armies.


~ Benjamin R. Tucker


November 7th – like any other date in history – has born witness to birth dates and events with both positive and negative connotations. On the affirmative side, it is the birthday of Albert Camus and Konrad Lorenz. On the other side of the ledger, it is also the birthday of Heinrich Himmler, the date of FDR’s election to a fourth term as president, and the date on which Anne Hutchinson was banished from the Massachusetts Bay Colony as a “heretic.”


This November 7th will also be the date of the forty-second anniversary of my non-participation in the voting process. I can assert that I have been “clean” from the politicoholic addiction for over four decades. I have no intentions of ever again sneaking into an enclosed booth – that serves the same purpose of hiding one’s embarrassing habits as those found in an adult bookstore – to conspire with a multitude of others to despoil you of your liberties or property.


I shall, of course, continue to be asked by some of my colleagues and students why I am not wearing one of those little stickers – reminiscent of bird-droppings – that reads “I voted.” Mark Foley will have to endure far less opprobrium for his actions than do those of us for whom it has become known that we are, as a matter of principle, opposed to the practice of voting. “Are you apathetic?”, or “did you just forget to register?”, or “are you making a protest against the quality of candidates?”, is the usual litany of responses I get to my non-voting stance. “Apathy is not something I care about one way or the other,” I reply, as my inquisitor heads off fearful of contemplating the unthinkable: that someone may be philosophically opposed to the democratic process!


As others go forth to participate in this silliest of all rituals – designed to convince members of the boobeoisie that they are really running the political zoo – I shall be engaged in more productive pursuits, such as picking the lint out of my navel.


The media priesthood has already begun the chant: if there is something wrong with the political system, we need to go to the polls to fix the problem. One of the media stalwarts has his own solution: “go to the polls and vote out every incumbent.” Don’t dare consider, of course, that there may be something fundamentally dysfunctional about the system itself. If drinking a quart of Scotch each day has given you cirrhosis of the liver, don’t bother with changing your habits, just change to another brand of Scotch!..................

[Michael]

An article entitled "Ballots 'rejected automatically' "





http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6975346.stm

[Michael]

An article entitled "The Pretense of Democracy Is Collapsing"












President George W. Bush is no longer pretending that we’re getting anybody in that White House in 2009 OTHER than Hillary Clinton. He’s starting to prepare the way for her to slide into his chair in the Oval Office. As far as Hillary and Bush are concerned, the 2008 elections are already a done deal. That’s one of the things that amazes me most about our wonderful "democracy," the way they no longer even bother to conceal their malicious intentions.





The Israeli Lobby tightly controls both Democrat and Republican candidates. Like infants in a kosher playpen, they can’t stray anywhere they’re not supposed to go. None of our two-party candidates are allowed to talk about the importance of race and the destructive effect millions of Third World immigrants are having on our society. The topic of race is so "taboo" that 20 million illegal aliens are being allowed to stay in America despite the fact that they will eventually put a crippling drain on every governmental service and certain funds like Social Security and Medicare will be plundered so that poor Latinos can have free health care at emergency wards all over America and so that illegal alien children get free education at all our public schools





http://www.whitecivilrights.com/the-pretense-of-democracy-is (http://www.whitecivilrights.com/the-pretense-of-democracy-is-collapsing_960.html) -collapsing_960.html

[Michael]

An article entitled "'CRITICAL SECURITY FAILURES' LEADS OHIO SEC. OF STATE TO RECOMMEND BAN OF DRE (TOUCH-SCREEN) VOTING MACHINES"









Brunner is calling for a ban on all Direct Recording Electronic (DRE, usually touch-screen) voting systems in the state, along with a ban on precinct-based optical-scan paper based systems, charging that the central counting of ballots at the county would eliminate "points of entry creating unnecessary voting system risk."





The State's bi-partisan "Evaluation &amp; Validation of Election-Related Equipment, Standards &amp; Testing" (EVEREST) report finds, as did California's study, as did virtually every other independent test of such systems, that violating the security and manipulating the "federal approved" electronic voting systems, is a breeze.








http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5443

[Michael]

An article entitled "We need Voter photo ID laws in every state!"


Voter fraud is rampant all across the nation. Illegal aliens vote, dead people vote, felons vote, and many of them vote five and six times. Everyone knows it’s a widespread problem, but very little is being done about it. Every state needs to pass a law requiring voters to show government issued PHOTO ID when voting. Just look at this story from Texas: of 25,000 new voter registrations turned in, over 23,000 turned out to be phony

http://www.thepoliticalcesspool.org/jamesedwards/2010/09/27/ (http://www.thepoliticalcesspool.org/jamesedwards/2010/09/27/we-need-voter-photo-id-laws-in-every-state/) we-need-voter-photo-id-laws-in-every-state/

[Nelson3]

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[Michael]

An article entitled "ACORN planning theft of elections?!?"


How many cities, states, and counties have contracts with SEIU (ACORN) to service their voting equipment?

Joseph Stalin said that real power does not lie in the power to vote, but rather in the power to count the votes. He who has the gold controls the vote . .. he who has the CONTRACT has the vote.
Stop and find out NOW . ..who is servicing YOUR voting equipment.

http://whiterevolution.com/?p=2224 (http://whiterevoluti&#111;n.com/?p=2224)

[Michael]

An article entitled "Once again, the vast majority of suspected election fraud involves Democrats."


More and more instances of blatant absentee voter fraud by Democrats is emerging all over the country. Democrats are always the ones fighting laws that would make it harder to cheat, they are also the ones always getting caught cheating.

http://cofcc.org/2010/10/once-again-the-vast-majority-of-sus (http://cofcc.org/2010/10/&#111;nce-again-the-vast-majority-of-suspected-electi&#111;n-fraud-involves-democrats/) pected-election-fraud-involves-democrats/

[Michael]

An article entitled " Leaked Stratfor Emails: Democrats Manipulated the 2008 Election Results"

http://amren.com/news/2012/04/leaked-stratfor-emails-democrats-manipulated-the-2008-election-results/

[Michael]

An article entitled "Democrat Zombie Voters"


In Democratic party circles they’re called “Lazarus votes,” voters who rise from their graves on election day like zombies and stagger to the polls to vote.


Basically, the Democrats want to use vote fraud to ensure the re-election of Barack Hussein Obama and the Republicans are at long last making some belated efforts to stop it. Too bad they wouldn’t move on ACORN back in 2008.

They’re probably not going to have much success. For example, the Democrats have moaned that if certain Southern states persist in their demand for voters to show a photo ID at the polls, Obama will lose between two and four million votes. Now, think about this. How do they arrive at that figure? Does the Democratic National Committee know something we don’t? Could that number possibly be the same as the number of dead people and illegal aliens, who voted in the last election?

http://www.whitecivilrights.com/?p=7326

[Michael]

An article entitled "Stopping Democrat Vote Fraud Before it Happens"


One good thing about the 2012 election is that the subject of Democrat vote fraud is no longer unspeakable and untouchable. The Republicans are pretty sure they’re going to win, but if they allow the Democrats to get away with their usual shenanigans at the polls, Romney’s present lead might evaporate.


The Republicans are acutely aware of the danger that the Democrats might steal this election as well, especially in minority-heavy “swing states” with big electoral college vote totals. At least, the Republicans are making an effort to prevent it this time around. They’d better. If Obama is allowed back in for a second term, the GOP can kiss goodbye any chance of ever seeing the inside of the Oval Office again after Obama hands out a general Amnesty to 20 million illegals aliens, plus allowing into the US tens of millions of “legal” immigrants from poor Third World countries, who are certain to vote at least 80 percent Democrat.

http://www.whitecivilrights.com/?p=10060

[Michael]

An article entitled "MASSIVE evidence of black voter fraud uncovered in Wisconsin"


Over 200,000 votes for Obama in Wisconsin may have been fake.

Since the 2008 election of Barack Obama, 3/5th of black voters have vanished from the rolls. The only explanation is that most of these people were fictional! 41% of the entire 2008 “electorate” of the city of Milwaukee has vanished without a trace.

Left-wing media refuses to admit the obvious. Seriously now – do you really believe, as Slate.com would like us to, that all these living, breathing, legally registered voters really existed in these wards in 2008? NOT!!

http://cofcc.org/2012/08/massive-evidence-of-black-voter-fraud-uncovered-in-wisconsin/

[Michael]

An article entitled "Democrats Register Kids, Dogs and Dead People to Vote for Obama"


The state of Virginia seems to have become a magnet for Democratic voter fraud. For some reason the Dems seem absolutely determined to take Virginia during the election, no matter how extensively they have to cheat to do it.

http://www.whitecivilrights.com/?p=10089

[Michael]

An article entitled "Election officials admit that local machines changed votes from Romney to Obama!"


Early voters claim they selected Romney and screened indicated they had just voted for Obama. Officials say machines just need “tweaks.”

http://topconservativenews.com/2012/10/election-officials-admit-that-local-machines-changed-votes-from-romney-to-obama/

[Michael]

An article entitled "Democrat Boss Caught on Video Planning Vote Fraud"

http://selwynduke.typepad.com/selwyndukecom/2012/10/democrat-boss-caught-on-video-planning-vote-fraud.html

[Michael]

An article entitled "Voter machines allegedly flipping votes to Obama in five states"

http://topconservativenews.com/2012/11/voter-machines-allegedly-flipping-votes-to-obama-in-five-states/

[Michael]

An article entitled "Can Democrat-leaning Voting Machines Win Election for Obama?"

http://selwynduke.typepad.com/selwyndukecom/2012/11/can-democrat-leaning-voting-machines-win-election-for-obama.html

[Michael]

An article entitled "Obama Certain to Lose if Vote Fraud Contained"


Obama has access to all the quality “inside” data, not just the propaganda from liberal polls designed to fool the masses. He knows he’ll probably lose tomorrow and like a typical narcissist, he can’t handle it. He doesn’t blame himself for doing a terrible job as president. Somehow, he’s just a victim. Poor little Barry. What a cold cruel world.

Let’s just hope the votes of US citizens are all counted on election day, and the Democrat efforts to steal certain key states fail, so that we can finally be rid of this Marxist hack, whose legacy of six trillion dollars in additional debt, may still cause the economy to come crashing down even after he’s gone.

http://www.whitecivilrights.com/?p=10536

What happens if the press reports that Obama wins but the official court shows that Romney wins? That happened once in Arkansas, and the powers that be went with the paper's account.

[Michael]

An article entitled "Was 2012 Election Stolen? Obama Lost in Every State with Photo ID Law"


Remember all those lawsuits by Democrats demanding that any voter identification laws be repealed. Well, now we know why they filed them. They needed to steal the vote in certain key states so that Obama could be reelected.

Curiously, Obama lost in every state that requires a photo ID to be produced before voting. A list of closely contested state elections with no voter ID, which narrowly went to Obama include: Minnesota (10), Iowa (6), Wisconsin (10), Nevada (6), Colorado (9), New Mexico (5) and Pennsylvania (20). This amounts to a total of 66 electoral votes. When added to Romney’s total of 205 electoral votes, that would give Romney 271 electoral votes, enough votes to win even without Ohio or Florida.

Romney also likely had the states of Florida and Ohio stolen from him, which don’t require photo IDs. Ohio requires a non-photo ID. Would a library card do? Florida “requests” a photo ID, but doesn’t require it. So what happens if they request a photo ID and the illegal alien Haitian doesn’t have one? Do they just count the vote anyway?

http://www.whitecivilrights.com/?p=10544

[Michael]

An article entitled "Where Obama Was 99-Percent Pure"

http://thenewamerican.com/reviews/opinion/item/13581-where-obama-was-99-percent-pure

[Michael]

An article entitled "Only partial recount ordered in St. Lucie, FL"


A huge controversy has erupted in St. Lucie County, Fl. Some Republican incumbents lost races by extremely slim margins. This includes Allen West, a high profile Republican Congressman.

It is admitted that memory cards for some of the electronic voting machines “malfunctioned.” In fact, election officials changed about 4,000 votes from Allen West to his opponent saying the votes had been “misread from the memory cards.” The final count shows West losing by less than 2,500 votes.

County officials have only ordered a recount for the last three days of early voting. The ballots for the first five days are not being recounted.

Republican officials also want a full count of all voter signatures during the eight days of early voting. This would then be compared to the total number of votes cast.

Problems with electronic voting machines occurred all over the nation. A lawyer for Allen West said there are grounds for a legal challenge unless a full comprehensive recount is made.

http://topconservativenews.com/2012/11/only-partial-recount-ordered-in-st-lucie-fl/

http://obamavoterfraud.blogspot.com/

[Michael]

An article entitled "Was the 2012 Election Stolen?"

http://selwynduke.typepad.com/selwyndukecom/2012/11/was-the-2012-election-stolen.html

[Michael]

An article entitled "22 Signs That Voter Fraud Is Wildly Out Of Control And The Election Was A Sham"


After what we have seen this November, how is any American ever supposed to trust the integrity of our elections ever again? There were over 70,000 reports of voting problems on election day, and there are numerous eyewitnesses that claim that they saw voting machines change votes for one candidate to another candidate right in front of their eyes. In several of the swing states there were counties where the number of registered voters exceeded the total voting age population by a very wide margin. How in the world does that happen? Some of the vote totals that were reported in some of the most important swing states were completely and totally absurd, and yet we are just supposed to accept them on blind faith without ever being able to ask any questions. Of course the Romney campaign has already totally given up, so it isn’t as if there is any chance that the results of the presidential election could be overturned anyhow. But if massive election fraud did take place and nobody is held accountable, what kind of message will that send for the future? Will we ever be able to have faith in the integrity of our elections ever again?

http://www.whitecivilrights.com/?p=10603

[Michael]

An article entitled " GOP Chairman Suspects Voter Fraud Because ‘Dozens and Dozens’ of African-Americans Turned Out in Maine ‘But Nobody in Town Knows Anyone That’s Black’"

http://www.amren.com/news/2012/11/gop-chairman-suspects-voter-fraud-because-dozens-and-dozens-of-african-americans-turned-out-in-maine-but-nobody-in-town-knows-anyone-thats-black/

[Michael]

I have heard that my Grandmother who worked at the polls would tell about the results that they sent in were not the results that were officially posted. In Arkansas, Clinton, probably, didn't win a legitimate election after '78. He lost in '80 probably the powers that be were taken by surprise and didn't rig them. In '82, he was suppose to have won reelection but no one could figure out who voted for him and that the way it went on all the years that he was governor.

[Nelson4]

Now that's major. The more proof we can rack up that absolutely horribly, filthy swine like Slick have only gotten in via fraud, the less credibility they will have.

It could very well be that none of these scumbuckets have ever actually won an election, at least after the public found out how detestable they are -- Slick's, Chimp's and Barry's 2nd term etc. Can it be that these walking abortions, these total nobodies were not only created by the System out of total mediocrity as their facade, but fraudulently hiked up at every stage of progress, the whole process totally divorced from reality?

Hmmmmm.....

[Michael]

I would guess that with honest election that over 90 % of the "leaders" at the federal level and a majority at the state level would never had won an election and many would, probably, be in prison in an honest society.

[Nelson4]

For sure! The world is upside-down and backwards from what it would be without rigging, forcing and jimmying by the elite vermin. Power corrupts.....

[doublehelix]

Good thread! Every 4 years, it is the same game with the same cheering/reporting/gawking media blitz.

We all knew the election wasn't real.

The same politicians who lie to us about everything else aren't going to let us elect the most powerful person
in the Western world.
But they let the American people think they do.

[Nelson4]

And don't the people LOVE to be deceived*! Even when I was a kid, the spectacle of big national party conventions struck me as hopelessly vulgar and phony -- people dressing up in silly red. white and blue costumes, waving signs and saying airheaded happy things to news teams. Fat middle-aged bureaucrats running the whole thing -- no color in their cheeks, no nothing in their words that had to do with my actual life and my family's, only windy stuff about going to the moon, helping the poor negroes (as they were called back then), hating and fearing the "Russians" and striking bigger, better trade deals with them -- !?!? I suppose that was presented as an effort to make friends with them and save their citizens from starvation, etc., but cui bono? Probably the fat cats, as usual.

What a perfect environment for a great nation to get repeatedly swindled in -- a big, silly PARTY that by its very nature trivialized the whole subject.

Jer. 5:31 The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?"

[Michael]

An article entitled "Vote Fraud in the 2012 Election"


Needless to say, the investigation has been virtually unreported outside the local media. Nor has there been any suggestion that the election results might be invalidated in the face of Democratic criminality. The Republican Party almost seems relieved to have lost to Barack Obama, providing more evidence that the GOP is largely worthless and desperately needs to be replaced by an openly pro-White party.

Ohio, if you will recall, was one of the “battleground states” or “swing states” that put Obama over the top in both elections. Curiously Barack Obama lost in every state that required photo ID before voting, but he “won” (or cheated his way to victory) in every swing state that did not require photo ID.

http://www.whitecivilrights.com/?p=11183

[doublehelix]

We all saw that with the sequential elections. Since voting doesn't matter and you can't get in unless "they" want you, why bother to be a political party? Why not do something meaningful with your money and help poor Whites or something?

[Michael]

We all saw that with the sequential elections. Since voting doesn't matter and you can't get in unless "they" want you, why bother to be a political party? Why not do something meaningful with your money and help poor Whites or something?

Helping poor Whites is the key. That is what the National Socialist did in Weimar and what Golden Dawn is doing in Greece. A political party services as a focal point, but I doubt that the government would allow them to help poor Whites so that would have to be done by an allied group. Even with most of our elections being rigged, from time to time a third party can win a local seat or even seat in Congress but not enough to make a difference except they have a voice.

The objective of a White political party isn't to gain power via the election process for most of the elections are rigged but for a voice to give hope to our people. When the Federal government begins to fall apart is the time where a third party can make its' move. Personally, I believe they will need to be overtly pro-White for a confusing platform design to give wiggle room so it can mean almost anything to increase membership will never get anywhere for people won't trust them.

The real key to putting the Whites together is to help the poor Whites. Poor Whites have no where to turn, except maybe a White church if they are lucky, but the government does as little as possible to help poor Whites and most charities ignore them, even thought pictures of poor White children would bring in more money than those pictures of black and browns that charities like to show when they beg. When one helps poor Whites in their time of need, they are far more likely to have a positive opinion of an organization and those allied to them. .

Too many White organizations have become places to give speeches and praise one another and others may hold a protest and complain that so few attend but why should people attend a protest the government not going to listen and for getting the message out a White protest would get more news coverage the fewer who show up, for 5 people are a joke but 5000 must be ignored.

A political party is useful for the White nationalist movement to get out the message but it needs to find a way to help the White people not just talk or protest. I firmly believe that Whites are not as much of a lost cause as many in the movement believe, but they have no trust in anyone to help them and that trust must be gain by those who which to lead them to a new Golden Age of the White race. It starts by coming up with ways to help the most desperate of our people. I know some small groups like White Revolution before they folded and the KKK do help poor Whites as much as they can, but much more is needed. We maybe living in a very bleak time for our race but things are likely to get a lot darker before the dawn of either a dark age to reset the racial balance in the world if we fail or a Golden age, if we win. Either way the White race should survive, but the Golden age is better.

[doublehelix]

Helping poor Whites is the key. That is what the National Socialist did in Weimar and what Golden Dawn is doing in Greece. A political party services as a focal point, but I doubt that the government would allow them to help poor Whites so that would have to be done by an allied group. Even with most of our elections being rigged, from time to time a third party can win a local seat or even seat in Congress but not enough to make a difference except they have a voice.

The objective of a White political party isn't to gain power via the election process for most of the elections are rigged but for a voice to give hope to our people. When the Federal government begins to fall apart is the time where a third party can make its' move. Personally, I believe they will need to be overtly pro-White for a confusing platform design to give wiggle room so it can mean almost anything to increase membership will never get anywhere for people won't trust them.

The real key to putting the Whites together is to help the poor Whites. Poor Whites have no where to turn, except maybe a White church if they are lucky, but the government does as little as possible to help poor Whites and most charities ignore them, even thought pictures of poor White children would bring in more money than those pictures of black and browns that charities like to show when they beg. When one helps poor Whites in their time of need, they are far more likely to have a positive opinion of an organization and those allied to them. .

Too many White organizations have become places to give speeches and praise one another and others may hold a protest and complain that so few attend but why should people attend a protest the government not going to listen and for getting the message out a White protest would get more news coverage the fewer who show up, for 5 people are a joke but 5000 must be ignored.

A political party is useful for the White nationalist movement to get out the message but it needs to find a way to help the White people not just talk or protest. I firmly believe that Whites are not as much of a lost cause as many in the movement believe, but they have no trust in anyone to help them and that trust must be gain by those who which to lead them to a new Golden Age of the White race. It starts by coming up with ways to help the most desperate of our people. I know some small groups like White Revolution before they folded and the KKK do help poor Whites as much as they can, but much more is needed. We maybe living in a very bleak time for our race but things are likely to get a lot darker before the dawn of either a dark age to reset the racial balance in the world if we fail or a Golden age, if we win. Either way the White race should survive, but the Golden age is better.

I agree with some of this. Yes, groups like White Revolution were very informative, and a way for people to connect.

But "Pro-White" scares "Most Whites" off, as "Most Whites" are not pro-White.

Some of the Pro-Whites who have money could actually help some of the poor Pro-Whites, maybe put someone through college, etc. There isn't a lot of difference between Pro-Whites and "Most Whites" as both are obsessed with consumption and materialism.
I am glad to see you mention helping poor Whites, because I've said this before, and get the cold shoulder about it.

The more Whites slip into poverty, the worse it gets. Blacks in DC and Mexicans are climbing into well-paying jobs via "Affirmative Action" and you can see the quality of everything going down because of it.

Greece is a lot different than the USA. Most Greeks acknowledge their being Greek, whereas most Americans could care less about where their ancestors came from. Go out and talk to people, and they say "race mixing was inevitable" and "doesn't matter where you are from". And these are "conservatives".

There isn't a political party that can save us, because it isn't about ideologies, it is about power and power comes from money and connections. If you owned the biggest mine in the world, you'd be pretty rich, like that woman in Australia. You'd wield a lot of power.

If you notice, not many are flocking to this site. It is because of ideologies. Most Whites are not ready to go "backward" in their opinion. Whites were once pretty racially savvy, and with all of the indoctrination and "modern times" have given up their racial thinking to embrace liberalism. So many "conservatives" have liberal views. You see this with the Republicans, who want to embrace "gay marriage" and "immigration reform". They are becoming liberals and by doing so, will capture some of the Democrats' territory.

Whites have abandoned racial preferences, because they embrace the world view of globalism. One big happy world with various skin tones where everyone is "the same". Talk to people, and you'll find this. People who might not like all of the Mexicans here...really don't approve of deporting them. So many Whites now have a brown grandchild or cousin. Someone married a Mexican or a black or an Asian. They aren't about to cut themselves off from their family, because they see how the world is now.

TV, movies, the media, et al, tells them this is how things are going. So they just accept it. They view being "Pro-White" as backward, ignorant, burning crosses, lynchings, etc. They are ignorant of genetics, and just how much damage race mixing, aka Miscegenation, does.

The ship is going down. There is far too much damage right now. It was said in 2050 that Mexicans will outnumber Whites, now it's brought down to 2030, and some even say 2020. If you don't see how much these people are breeding, you owe it to yourself to get a good look. Don't go by the media. Go see it for yourself.

When you look around, there is no "movement", just online forums. All of the Pro-Whites want their own blog or forum, instead of doing something more thankless and less exciting, like help a White out there.

[doublehelix]

And don't the people LOVE to be deceived*! Even when I was a kid, the spectacle of big national party conventions struck me as hopelessly vulgar and phony -- people dressing up in silly red. white and blue costumes, waving signs and saying airheaded happy things to news teams. Fat middle-aged bureaucrats running the whole thing -- no color in their cheeks, no nothing in their words that had to do with my actual life and my family's, only windy stuff about going to the moon, helping the poor negroes (as they were called back then), hating and fearing the "Russians" and striking bigger, better trade deals with them -- !?!? I suppose that was presented as an effort to make friends with them and save their citizens from starvation, etc., but cui bono? Probably the fat cats, as usual.

What a perfect environment for a great nation to get repeatedly swindled in -- a big, silly PARTY that by its very nature trivialized the whole subject.

Jer. 5:31 The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?"


I guess people are not comfortable with cleaning house. They like the game show atmosphere of politics. Politicians just take their money and spend it how they want. There is no accountability anymore. But we all know from world history how the story ends. This isn't the first time in history that a great civilization will fall. But what makes it UNIQUE is that the United States was an experiment. For the first time, the common man was a "Citizen" and could own property and had rights. It worked for a short time. But people were different back then. They didn't have a TV screaming at them. Jefferson envisioned this land being a land of farmers, who owned the land and grew their own food and traded among themselves. He didn't envision a "high tech" world of high stress and economic slaves. He probably didn't think people would go the route of having someone putting thousands of animals in prison-like buildings and raising them as if they were not living beings. He didn't envision a land where people cared more about celebrities, then their own freedom. I am sure that if they had known what America would become, they would have not fought and died for our freedom.

[Nelson4]

The media and high-tech factors are, as you say, quite major. I often wonder -- if the fouding fathers and mothers could be miraculously transported to today's ameriKa, would they be more dazzled by the techno-wonders or more repulsed by all the corruption? The latter, no doubt.

[Michael]

An article entitled "Jury: Fraud put Obama on '08 ballot"

http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/jury-fraud-put-obama-on-08-ballot/

[doublehelix]

The media and high-tech factors are, as you say, quite major. I often wonder -- if the fouding fathers and mothers could be miraculously transported to today's ameriKa, would they be more dazzled by the techno-wonders or more repulsed by all the corruption? The latter, no doubt.

I agree. So much goes to the idea of what "Freedom" really is.
Freedom means "mischief" to most people now. Freedom to drink beer, to drive fast, drink all they want, to stay out late, play around, gamble...that's what freedom is to many. They don't think about their real rights. So while they drink their beer, they don't think about how over-taxed they are, or how they don't really have any rights anymore. They can't fathom that at one time, the majority of land in this country was only lawful by what stand you took. How you would find land, build a home, and defend that property.
"Dazzled" as you say, and they are dazzled and confused. So many things are distractions from the real thing.

[Nelson4]

Freedom has become license as America has turned to the new Roman empire and the new USSR.... Nice to have you back, DNA.