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Nelson3

05-20-2009, 03:19 PM

Yes, yes, you're not supposed to use the word "perfect" in describing any human being, save one.

And I know Gov. Sanford is simply doing his job, the way all politicians are supposed to.

But compared to the political rabble at large, Mark Sanford (in his quiet, grayish, matter-of-fact way) does indeed look stainless.

Mark Sanford Fires Back at</span> </span>[communist pervert US Sen. Lindsey] </span>Graham, Defends</span> </span>Libertarians </span></span>

Mark Sanford dismisses Lindsey Graham's comments, reaffirms old-fashioned conservative principles, and reminds us that libertarian ideas are integral to liberty:</span>
http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/SouthernAvenger/archives/ 2009/05/18/mark-sanford-fires-back-at-graham-defends-liberta rians

Many can spin fine words at reporters and crowds, but Sanford actually means them and has the voting record in Congress to prove it. Every time he's in the news on some account, he's doing and saying the exact opposite of the political rabble at large. He's the first governor we've had since I moved here in 1992 that refused to play footsy with the NAACP over the Confederate flag "issue". He's denounced runaway pork spending and even carried two pigs into the state house to make his point, one of which greeted the legislature most fittingly by pooping on the floor.

While other politicians run around saying garbage like "Well, if we cut taxes, we'll have to find some way to gouge the public elsewhere to keep funding programs</span>," Gov. Mark Sanford tells the SC legislature "Well, if you insist on raising taxes we'll have to find somewhere to cut spending."

So if you're wondering whether the rumblings you keep hearing about our having a statesman </span>for governor are true, the answer is YES, YES, YES</span>. And yes, he would make an ideal candidate for president.

I must say further that while most politicians today affect disgustingly sham pomp or a nauseatingly fake folksiness, Gov. Sanford has a natural, old-fashioned, manly dignity about him. As you view the clip, note the total absence of guile in his expression.

But the question is how many ameriKans have even heard </span>of Mark Sanford -- even among conservatives, real and imagined. Google search numbers expose the true values and priorities of people today, political and otherwise -- damningly:

Barack Obama -- 94,200,000 hits

Hillary Clinton -- 20,300,000 hits

Burger King -- 18,400,000 hits

Lindsey Lohan -- 2,380,000 hits

Mark Sanford -- 1,050,000 hits

Edited by: Nelson3

realgeorge

06-29-2009, 12:24 AM

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I don't know too much about this Sanford guy, but I just betcha: He is a First-class Scalawag. I bet he bewails the Battle Flag atop the State House, and moans about "Neo-Confederates" plying their trade in and about Charleston.

Nelson, am I right?

Plus he can't even get a decent Blonde American Piece of Eight onto which tograsp his grubby cheatin' hands! He's gotta go to impoverished South America to find a squeeze. Hardly the stuff that Bill Clintons are made of!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090628/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_sc_ (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090628/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_sc_governor_the_mistress) governor_the_mistress

BUENOS AIRES, Argentina – A 41-year-old Argentine woman has acknowledged having a relationship with South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford.

In a statement sent to news network C5n of Buenos Aires, Maria Belen Chapur says she will not talk about her private life.

But she says e-mail exchanges with Sanford that were widely published by U.S. media and elsewhere were obtained by someone who hacked her account.

She denies the hacker was a friend of hers.

Chapur says she suspects she knows who the hacker is but will not identify him, because she lacks proof and for legal reasons.

She says Sunday's 200-word statement will be her only comment on the matter.

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Nelson3

06-30-2009, 12:44 AM

Watch it, guy -- that's my governor you're talking about! smileys/smiley23.gif

I've tried and tried to hate him and think the worst, but in view of the fact that (1) he publicly confessed, (2) the media are giving him special communist handling, and (3) even with this shocking scandal Sanford is still way ahead of 99.99% of other politicians professionally and morally, I don't think I'll try any further.

Scalawag? He's the only governor we've had in my 17 years here that has told the NAACP to get lost regarding the Confederate flag. Others did, but eventually or quickly caved. During the endless ruckus about it, about five of the then-living SC governors did a TV commercial calling for flag sellout! They faced the camera and each individually bleated at us about the need for "change" on the "issue."

As soon as Sanford's replaced, look for the supposedly dead flag issue to come alive again with a vengeance. In this and too many other issues to mention, he has been pure gold -- the statesman of our dreams.

Nelson3

06-30-2009, 01:37 PM

Via email, a followup to the above -- doesn't excuse anything, but may further confirm that gewish organizations are constantly working to ruin white notables and in turn demoralize and debauch the masses. It's in one Protocol or another, right?

Was Maria Chapur assigned to commit adultery with Bilderberger Mark Sanford, potential 2012 U.S. presidential candidate ?

1) As a potential U.S. President in 2012, was Sanford initially targeted for seduction into committing adultery
so that he could be "controlled" more easily by the Globalist Establishment, if elected president ?

2) Since it appears that CFR-member, 33rd Degree Mason, Catholic Newt Gingrich has been given the "tap" by the Globalist Establishment to be the designated "front-runner" for the Republican 2012 presidential nomination,
was Mark Sanford "exposed" because he went off the Globalist plantation by opposing Obama's stimulus,
and trying to bill himself as a conservative hero, and positioning himself as a challenger to the NWO's Gingrich ?
The Illuminati's Secret Societies and a Special Report on the Bilderbergers (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252F64.191.57.69%252F% 25257Etexemarr%252Faudio%252F2609.mp3) [ www.texemarrs.com/ (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.texemarrs.com% 252F) ]
[B] http://64.191.57.69/~texemarr/audio/2609.mp3 (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252F64.191.57.69%252F% 25257Etexemarr%252Faudio%252F2609.mp3)
[ Marrs is wrong however about Maria Chapur and Israel's Mossad, it appears Maria Chapur's connections are Roman Catholic, not with Israel. ]

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Media frenzy: The news of the affair led to a large press conference, where the governor admitted liaising with the mysterious Maria
SC Governor Mark Sanford, adulterer
SC State House, First Floor Lobby
Columbia, South Carolina
Wednesday, June 24, 2009

Married U.S. governor who went 'AWOL in the Appalachians' finally admits he was visiting mistress in Argentina... on expenses
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1195665/Married-U (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.dailymail.co.u k%252Fnews%252Fworldnews%252Farticle-1195665%252FMarried-U-S-governor-tearfully-admits-affair-confesses-visiting-Argentina-expenses.html) -S-governor-tearfully-admits-affair-confesses-visiting-Argen tina-expenses.html
Last updated at 3:29 PM on 26th June 2009
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South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford, a father of four who has previously been tipped as a potential Presidential candidate,
has admitted to an affair with a 'dear, dear friend' in Argentina.

The confession likely ended chances Sanford might be a Republican contender for the U.S. presidency in 2012.

[Photo of adulteress Maria Belen Chapur]

The journalist Maria Belen Chapur, reporting on 9/11 from New York in video footage from 2001.
Argentine news channel C5N - owned by a journalist who had formerly worked with Ms Chapur -
has identified her as the Governor's lover

__________________________________________________ __________ ___________________________________

In 2001, Maria Chapur worked as a journalist for Argentine television (Después de Hora) with Daniel Hadad.

Daniel Hadad (an Argentine "Ted Turner / Rupert Murdoch"), now owns Argentine cable news C5N (and other media outlets),

and is a member of the secretive globalist Roman Catholic organization, the Jesuits' Opus Dei.

"The Jesuits control Opus Dei through the hierarchy of the Pope and through the Knights of Malta. Opus Dei is composed of prominent
Roman Catholic businessmen and politicians who have given themselves over to “God’s work [sic]” that’s what Opus Dei means for
making the Pope the Universal Monarch of the world, ruling the world from Solomon’s rebuilt temple in Jerusalem."
www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/jesuit_world_control (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.theforbiddenkn owledge.com%252Fhardtruth%252Fjesuit_world_control .htm) .htm
www.VaticanAssasins.org (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.vaticanassasin s.org%252F)

Both Maria Chapur and Daniel Hadad attended the Catholic University of Argentina.

__________________________________________________ __________ ___________________________________ ___________________________

Daniel Hadad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Hadad (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%2 52Fwiki%252FDaniel_Hadad)

Daniel Hadad (born November 28, 1961) is an Argentine (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%2 52Fwiki%252F%252Fwiki%252FArgentina) businessman involved in telecommunications (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%2 52Fwiki%252F%252Fwiki%252FTelecommunications) and media (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%2 52Fwiki%252F%252Fwiki%252FBroadcast_media) .

Gerardo Daniel Hadad was born in Buenos Aires (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%2 52Fwiki%252F%252Fwiki%252FBuenos_Aires) in 1961. He got his degree as a lawyer (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%2 52Fwiki%252F%252Fwiki%252FLawyer) and journalist (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%2 52Fwiki%252F%252Fwiki%252FJournalist) from the Catholic University of Argentina (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%2 52Fwiki%252F%252Fw%252Findex.php%253Ftitle%253DCat holic_University_of_Argentina%2526action%253Dedit% 2526redlink%253D1).
He did post-graduate studies at the University of Navarre (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%2 52Fwiki%252F%252Fwiki%252FUniversity_of_Navarre) in Spain (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%2 52Fwiki%252F%252Fwiki%252FSpain). He was granted a scholarship by the Fundación Universidad Río de la Plata (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%2 52Fwiki%252F%252Fw%252Findex.php%253Ftitle%253DFun daci%2525C3%2525B3n_Universidad_R%2525C3%2525ADo_d e_la_Plata%2526action%253Dedit%2526redlink%253D1)
to continue his education in Washington DC (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%2 52Fwiki%252F%252Fwiki%252FWashington_DC). He married Viviana Zocco, with whom he has had four children.

Before he became a media businessman, Daniel Hadad worked as a journalist. He worked on a show called Después de Hora (After Hours).
He was also in charge of a radio talk show, El Primero de la Mañana (The First of the Morning). A member of the conservative Roman Catholic (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%2 52Fwiki%252F%252Fwiki%252FRoman_Catholic)
organization Opus Dei (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%2 52Fwiki%252F%252Fwiki%252FOpus_Dei), Hadad enjoyed warm relations with the administration of former President Carlos Menem (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%2 52Fwiki%252F%252Fwiki%252FCarlos_Menem). Menem, who privatized the most
of Argentina's panoply of State enterprises (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%2 52Fwiki%252F%252Fwiki%252FState_enterprise), had Radio 10 (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%2 52Fwiki%252F%252Fwiki%252FRadio_10) sold to Hadad in 1993.

Hadad acquired a 50% stake in Channel 9 (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%2 52Fwiki%252F%252Fwiki%252FCanal_9_%252528Argentina %252529), a leading Buenos Aires broadcaster, in 2002 and purchased the remaining half from local investor and
financier Raúl Moneta in 2006. He sold the network in December 2007 to Mexican investor Miguel Ángel González, however.

Hadad maintains control over numerous Argentine media oulets, including Channel 5 (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%2 52Fwiki%252F%252Fwiki%252FCanal_5_Noticias), Infobae online newsdaily, Radio 10 (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%2 52Fwiki%252F%252Fwiki%252FRadio_10), Diagonales
newspaper (La Plata (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%2 52Fwiki%252F%252Fwiki%252FLa_Plata)) and Tendencia magazine, among others. He also pioneered legal music downloading (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fen.wikipedia.org%2 52Fwiki%252F%252Fwiki%252FMusic_downloading) in Argentina (10musica.com (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252F10musica.com%252F) ).

__________________________________________________ __________ ___________________________________

Sanford lover breaks her silence, acknowledging affair
www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/70929.html (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.mcclatchydc.co m%252Fhomepage%252Fstory%252F70929.html)
Posted on Sunday, June 28, 2009
[excerpts, emphasis added]

[Video]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uphohZs9nuQ&eurl (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.youtube.com%25 2Fwatch%253Fv%253DuphohZs9nuQ%2526eurl)=
Mark Sanford's Argentine girlfriend, Maria Belen Chapur, worked as a television journalist.
This video, in Spanish, was transmitted live from New York a month after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.
Chapur's report begins 35 seconds into the video.
4:36
317,173 views

Note: The TV anchor with Maria Belen Chapur in this video footage of her reporting from New York City after the 9/11 attacks in 2001
is named Daniel Hadad. Today Hadad is the owner of C5N Argentine cable news.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1195665/Married-U (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.dailymail.co.u k%252Fnews%252Fworldnews%252Farticle-1195665%252FMarried-U-S-governor-tearfully-admits-affair-confesses-visiting-Argentina-expenses.html) -S-governor-tearfully-admits-affair-confesses-visiting-Argen tina-expenses.html

BUENOS AIRES, Argentina — The Argentine mystery woman who stole the heart of South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford went public
Sunday night for the first time since the news of the affair broke Wednesday, but was still able to keep up the air of mystery.

In an e-mail sent to a reporter for a Buenos Aires television station and read on the air Sunday night, Maria Belen Chapur tacitly
acknowledged the affair that has torpedoed Sanford's political career and kept Argentina enthralled for the past several days.
But she provided no details and said she wouldn't.

Here's what Sanford's lover wrote to Argentine journalist
www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/70932.html (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.mcclatchydc.co m%252Fhomepage%252Fstory%252F70932.html)
This is the e-mail sent by Maria Belen Chapur to Eduardo Feinmann, a journalist with Argentina's C5N television,
as published on the television station's Web site. It was translated from Spanish by McClatchy's Mark Seibel.

continued...

Until Sunday night, Chapur had remained completely hidden, and only a few details had trickled out about her life.

She is known to be a jogger who speaks English, French and Chinese and has two children. She is not believed to work
but did work as an English translator for an Argentine television station several years ago.

"A lot of media have been after her during the last couple of days and she has chosen C5N to make her only public statement,”
said the announcer from the Buenos Aires television station.

The station's owner, Daniel Hadad, is believed to be a friend of Chapur's.

continued...

So far, the only video of Chapur made public is a 2001 news report she filed to C5N from New York City a month after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Sanford has been mostly cloistered with his family since Wednesday's press conference, although his wife Jenny has tartly said that she warned
Sanford against returning to Argentina to see Chapur.

The scandal has prompted calls by even Republicans that Sanford ought to resign the governorship and has ruined whatever chances he had
of running for president in 2012.

__________________________________________________ __________ ___________________________________

Woman in Sanford affair confirms relationship
www.thestate.com/world/story/844996.html (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.thestate.com%2 52Fworld%252Fstory%252F844996.html)
Sunday, Jun. 28, 2009
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The only image of Chapur seen these days is a brief video of a news dispatch she filed from New York for an Argentine channel shortly after
the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attack on the U.S.

At that time, she traveled frequently between Argentina and the United States, according to local media. It was around that time - eight years ago,
the governor said in his tearful confession Wednesday - that they met, at an "open air dance spot" in the Uruguayan resort of Punta del Este,
according to one of the leaked e-mails.

continued...

Carlos Sosto, a restaurant owner who said he knows Chapur as a neighborhood resident, refused to confirm reports that she dined at his place
last week with Sanford. Without naming anyone, he suggested she has influential friends who asked him not to talk with reporters.

Neighbors who know Chapur say she lives with her 15- and 19-year-old sons. She is no longer with her husband, a soy exporter, the neighbors said,
but it isn't clear if she is separated or divorced.

Chapur spent her elementary and high school years at St. Catherine's, an expensive private school in Buenos Aires' posh Belgrano district.
She then earned a degree in social politics at the Catholic University of Argentina, according to the university's Web site.

Besides working as a TV reporter, she is known to have worked as an English interpreter for a time. She also was employed as a market researcher,
she told an Associated Press reporter who interviewed her for a 2005 story on Argentines taking a Chinese language course.

She said she took the course in preparation for accompanying her husband on a business trip to Beijing and Shanghai. It isn't clear what level of Chinese
she reached, but she said that having traveled to many parts of the world, China was the most difficult place for her to communicate.

She said at the time she was fluent in English and French in addition to Spanish, and had a good command of Portuguese. Rodrigo Franca, a Brazilian
who lives in her apartment building, described her Portuguese now as good.

Chapur's 400-word statement Sunday added no details about her as a person. Its purpose was to address news reports on some of the e-mails
showing her relationship with Sanford that were leaked late last year to the South Carolina newspaper The State.

__________________________________________________ __________ ___________________________________

Are the claims in this article below from "a Buenos Aires television executive involved in hiring" Maria Chapur when she
worked for Argentine television from 2001-2002 the truth ??? Who is the "Buenos Aires television executive" quoted below ?
Is the "Buenos Aires television executive" "who has direct knowledge of the situation" none other than Daniel Hadad ?
__________________________________________________ __________ ___________________________________ ___________________________

Source of Sanford e-mails found?
www.thestate.com/803/story/843301.html (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.thestate.com%2 52F803%252Fstory%252F843301.html)
Saturday, Jun. 27, 2009
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BUENOS AIRES, Argentina

A business associate of Sanford’s Argentine mistress said Friday that private messages between the lovers had been sent anonymously to
The State newspaper in December by an Argentine man the mistress briefly dated.

The associate, who asked not to be identified, is a Buenos Aires television executive involved in hiring the woman, whom he identified as
Maria Belen Chapur, a producer at the television network America from 2001-02.

Last December, the executive said, Chapur was dating a young Argentine a few months after her affair with Sanford began. The executive,
who has direct knowledge of the situation, said the man happened to see the e-mails between Sanford and Chapur and hacked into her
e-mail account to see the rest.

Infuriated, the man sent the messages to The State.

The executive said that when Chapur found out, she immediately ended the relationship with the man, whose identity has not been disclosed.

continued...

In publishing the e-mail messages this week, The State said they had been sent anonymously. Asked Friday about the executive’s account
of their source, managing editor Steve Brook said he had no comment, adding only, “That’s interesting.”

continued...

The executive said Chapur monitored international press coverage of Argentina, preparing a summary each evening from the financial and
European news media for the network.

“She was a follower of international news,” he said, “an avid reader of foreign news and regularly attended policy seminars.” He said she spoke
English and French fluently.

She appeared on the air only once, reporting from New York in 2002 during the one-year anniversary of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks. A video
of her appearance, now widely circulating on the Internet, first appeared Thursday afternoon on Argentine television.

__________________________________________________ __________ ___________________________________

Maria Chapur attended primary and secondary school at an expensive private school, St. Catherine's.

Chapur studied at the Catholic University of Argentina, specializing in international relations.

In 2001, she worked on a program called "Despues de Hora" with Daniel Hadad.

Revelan detalles de la argentina que lo cautivó
www.lanacion.com.ar/nota.asp?nota_id=1143700 (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.lanacion.com.a r%252Fnota.asp%253Fnota_id%253D1143700)
Viernes 26 de junio de 2009
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María Belén Chapur, la mujer que conquistó el corazón del gobernador de Carolina del Sur, Mark Sanford, asistió durante sus estudios
primarios y secundarios al exclusivo colegio St. Catherine?s. Luego cursó en la Universidad Católica Argentina (UCA)
la carrera de Ciencia Política con especialización en Relaciones Internacionales, confirmaron a La Nacion fuentes de esa institución.

continued...

Por el trabajo de su marido ?un exportador de soja con quien tuvo dos hijos, que hoy tienen 15 y 19 años?, ella vivió entre la Argentina y
Estados Unidos durante varios años. En 2001, mientras residía en Nueva York, cubrió el atentado contra las Torres Gemelas para
Después de Hora, el programa emitido por América y conducido por Daniel Hadad, para quien trabajó
como productora.

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Video From 2001 Shows Woman at Heart of Sanford Media Firestorm
www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/06/25/video-shows-woman-heart- (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.foxnews.com%25 2Fpolitics%252F2009%252F06%252F25%252Fvideo-shows-woman-heart-sanford-media-firestorm%252F%253Ftest%253Dfaces) sanford-media-firestorm/?test=faces
The video shows Maria Belen Chapur delivering a new report from New York City on the aftermath of the Sept. 11
FOXNews.com
Thursday, June 25,
[excerpt, emphasis added]

The woman at the heart of a media firestorm following South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford's admission of an affair can be seen in a 2001 video
working as a freelance reporter for an Argentine TV station.

The video, posted online by Argentine news site Infobae.com (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/redirect?url=http%253A%252F%252Fwww.infobae.com%25 2Fcontenidos%252F456633-101275-0-La-mujer-argentina-que-enamor%2525C3%2525B3-al-gobernador), shows Maria Belen Chapur delivering a report from New York City on the
aftermath of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks for a TV news show called "Despues de hora" on the Spanish-language America network.

"Maria Belen was working as a freelance journalist for that show," Sebastian Aguirre, who worked on the show with Chapur, told FOXNews.com.

Michael

06-30-2009, 11:12 PM

If the guy truly defends his people, he maybe a real good old boy or good ol’ boy. A real good old boy is someone who has human flaws but they protect and defend their people so their minor flaws are overlooked, because if one waited for the perfect leader would not find such a person among ordinary humans. The term may have fallen into disrepute after so many politicians especially in the South betrayed their people. At some point it maybe better to support a leader who fights for his people and has human flaws than let the same old carpetbaggers and scalawags run things.

The big question in this matter may come down to the race of the woman since Argentine has in percentage more Whites than the USA today she could very likely be White, but that is still an open question, but if she is White he just an adulterer. Was it a setup or did the powers that be just use an opportunity to weaken a opponent? The question is open but either way he fell into the trap. The powers that be hide and minimize the short comings of their lackeys but attack unmercifully those who standup for their people. In the end, the question comes down is the adulterer fighting for freedom better than the tyrant who will oppress the nation?

Nelson3

07-01-2009, 05:21 AM

The Bible subtly provides the answers you're pointing to, Michael:

1. God's people were never supposed to turn to human government to begin with, but but they -- with a banality all too familiar via today's </span>political mess -- looked God in the eye and said they wanted a mortal, fallible, two-legged, head-scratching king like all the other countries around them.

2. The greatest leaders show the same moral weaknesses as the sheeple or worse. David, the "sweet psalmist of Israel," led an often bitter life as king over ancient Israel, much of it taken up with dealing with the fruits of his mind-numbing adultery and polygamy.

As long as decent people insist on following pagan societies' worst habits, they're going to have to pay the price, just as ameriKa now has all of Israel's problems and putative enemies because it's nothing but a wart on Israel's backside.

Since God continued to work with rebellious Israel as long as she still had a faithful remnant of saints within her -- and even to honor her more earnest if weak and faltering leaders -- there has to be hope for ameriKa.

Edited by: Nelson3

realgeorge

07-04-2009, 10:46 PM

Watch it, guy -- that's my governor you're talking about! smileys/smiley23.gif

Scalawag? He's the only governor we've had in my 17 years here that has told the NAACP to get lost regarding the Confederate flag. Others did, but eventually or quickly caved. During the endless ruckus about it, about five of the then-living SC governors did a TV commercial calling for flag sellout! They faced the camera and each individually bleated at us about the need for "change" on the "issue."

Howdy Nelson,

Well it would be a tragedy if Gov Sanford is a SC Nationalist, pro-Confederate, who was set up by the elites with a Siren from Argentina. The scenario actually is perfectly plausible to me ... When I lived in St. Tammany Parish LA, we had the almost God-like BobLivingston, the conservative Republican as a representative. Turns out Bob was lured squarely into the I-love-Israel camp, but was an anti-Washington anti-Pork and anti-Socialist zealot. He got creamed in the Clinton Administration I-will-rat-on-you revealing of all the "affairs" among Congresscritters back in the heady days of 1993 or so. The feeling among locals was that the "system" sent many, many broads his way to temp him into indiscretion, and it worked.

Who would be your ideal replacement for SC Governor?Edited by: realgeorge

Nelson3

07-05-2009, 02:55 AM

Wow, Real -- Bob Livingston as in the Bob Livingston Letter? Seen a few copies, good stuff.

There's a lovely young state Rep from Lexington SC who's lately emerged as a great whistleblower for fiscal conservatism, and she's reportedly strong in the other kinds too.

http://www.nikkihaley.com/

I wish her and the other real-world candidates well in going up against the commie GOP establishment here. Recall that when Ron Paul was on the campaign trail in Spartanburg last year, that county's GOP chairman initially tried to bar him from their annual convention!smileys/smiley7.gif

Edited by: Nelson3

Nelson3

07-14-2009, 05:48 PM

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<h3 style="color: rgb(102, 0, 0);" ="entry-er">Governor Mark Sanford's Detractors Fall Flat on their Faces </h3>

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The Real Reason that they are determined to get rid of Governor Mark Sanford</font>
<div>To understand this visit:</font></div>
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<div>Set forJuly 2009</div>
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<div>He does not need us to defend him. We need him the DEFEND US.</font></div>
<div>LOCAL GOVERNMENTcan bea defense against central tyranny.</font></div>
<div>Alert your local representatives and police. </font></div>
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<div>Governor Mark Sanford has opposed federal encroachment at EVERY turn. </font></div>
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<div>He refused to comply with Real ID:</font></div>
<div>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8900786642596130813 (http://targetfreedom.typepad.com/targetfreedom/2009/07/sanfords-detractors-fall-flat.html)</font></div>
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<div>Then he refused to accept the
stimulus money, but lost a court battle with the legislature.Now he is
being forced to accept it. </font></div>
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<div>Here isa videowhere Lindsey
Graham suggested that libertarians, and Ron Paul supportersleave the
Republican Party. Hedirectedus to"the exit sign": </font></div>
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Then Mark Sanford fired back at Lindsey Graham In defense of Libertarians:</font>
<h1>http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=ikqJ_KB66WQ</font> (http://targetfreedom.typepad.com/targetfreedom/2009/07/sanfords-detractors-fall-flat.html)</font></h1></div>
<div>The Fedsdo not have to guess what he would doif FEMA tried to use foreign troops to impose martial law in South Carolina. </font></div></font></div></div></div>

Videos show the Pitiful Anti Mark Sanford Fizzle: a360 Degree View</font></div>
<div>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2VHuaP-QFM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2VHuaP-QFM)</font></div>
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<div>Here is a panoramic; 360
degree view, of the pitiful rabble that Fox described as "less than
200".YES, it was VERY MUCH "less than 200".If this entire group was
waiting in a very small train station there would have been plenty of
seats left over. Almost everyone that was there was media, or police,
or people who SUPPORT Mark Sanford. They only made one point. They
proved that no one agrees with them. </font></div>
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<div>Governor Mark Sanford's detractors make false claims of support</font></div>
<div> http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=60358 337) &VideoID=60358337</font></div>
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<div>Governor Mark Sanford's
detractors named off what they called a "long list" of people who want
Governor Mark Sanford to resign.It seemed quite strangethat none of
these people showed up at this rally. Even though this list was quite
small,it was not as small as the number of people who actually did
show up at the rally. </font></div>
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<div>This shows where Mccall backed out of the rally</font></div>
<div> http://www.palmettoscoop.com/2009/07/09/mccall-backs-out-of- (http://www.palmettoscoop.com/2009/07/09/mccall-backs-out-of-anti-sanford-rally/) anti-sanford-rally/</font></div>
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<div>Thousands ofpeople at the Tea
Parties, but the media is no where to be found. A dozen people show for
an Anti-Conservative rally, and the media peopleout number the
demonstrators:</font></div></div></div>
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<div>Anti Sanford Rally coverage</font></div>
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<div>http://www.thestate.com/local/story/859001.html (http://www.thestate.com/local/story/859001.html)</font></div>
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<div>Small turnout for citizens rally to oust Governor Sanford</font></span></div>
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<div>SC gov hangs on to office, 2 weeks after scandal</font></div>
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<div>Rally Calls For S.C. Gov. To Resign</font></div>
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<div>http://www.thesunnews.com/575/story/974586.html (http://www.thesunnews.com/575/story/974586.html)</font></div>
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<div>http://www.wbt.com/news/details.cfm?article_id=47071 (http://www.wbt.com/news/details.cfm?article_id=47071)</font></div>

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there was "under 200 people." You can see from the other reports that
there were less than 50. Just to let you know how dependable FOX is:</font></div>
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Nelson3

09-13-2009, 03:04 AM

Mrs. Sanford, would you please pass this on to your
husband if either of the first two "Cc" email addresses above is not
correct?

I deeply sympathize with you in the ordeal you have been through. The
evil of it is undeniable. But in the context of a totally corrupt
political era, I hope and pray Gov. Sanford will be able to finish his
term -- and certainly that you and he will be able to completely
overcome this episode. I beg you to stay together if this is at
possible.

Thank you, and may God be with you both.

Nelson Waller, M.Mus.

Anderson

</font>Dear Gov. Sanford:

I applaud you for having answered your critics with today's "Personal
message from Mark." I only wish you had covered much more that the
transportation "issue". It would in fact be a scandal if you had made
improper use of state resources, but at this point in history, so what?
Like the legislators and media mouths don't do the same thing? How
about the Democrats who have been hating you on principal all along.
Are they so pure? I DON'T THINK SO.

One of the biggest shocks of my 20+ years in political life is seeing
the Republican House members try to lynch you. What a spectacle of pure
rootlessness and lack of principle! Here you are, politically the
governor of any true Constitutionalist's dreams, and they -- who have
presumably been working with you agreeably and harmoniously until now
-- suddenly are ready to throw you (as the trite saying goes) under the
bus.

Obviously they are doing nothing but grandstanding to the politically
simplistic fundamentalist crowd -- why only they matter all of a sudden
is never explained.

Your sin indeed stunned me as well. But since your politics were such a
miracle in this rotten, filthy age -- and because you, unlike other
sinning politicians, confessed -- there was never any question in my
mind your career should remain firmly on course. If this world fires
you as governor while honoring the Teddy Kennedy as a god, we've
reached lower depths than Rome and Babylon. Well, we've done that
anyway since the USA became the 666-beast of Revelation in the world,
but your leave office before your time would still be unthinkable.

It would be bad enough to see you leave in the normal course of things,
but in the face of such self-righteous opportunism from your critics --
with Republicans in the lead, no less? Dear God, anything but that!

Nothing goes by its proper name anymore. Opportunism is not the right
word in the above sentence. Perhaps "pander-fest" or "betrayal
bacchanal" would be more like it!

You, Sir, are still a miracle of statesmanship. Your record in that
department even puts most supposedly conservative leaders to shame.
They may be for "family values", the so-called war against so-called
terror, or whatever, but YOU ARE A PALEO-CONSTITUTIONALIST and that is
what it's all about.

Below is a resend of my previous message to you in the context of a
complete issue of the Southern Heritage News and Views email forum.

Stay the course, please, Governor.

Sincerely and respectfully,

/\/.\/\/.

</font>**************

S.C. CONFEDERATE FLAG RALLY = GREAT SUCCESS

From: area51news@rock.com

The Confederate flag rally in Greenville S.C. August 29, 2009 = GREAT SUCCESS

READ THE NEWS!

http://www.wyff4.com/news/20623209/detail.html

PLEASE LEAVE A COMMENT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE.

TALKING POINTS: A VOTE ON THE FLAG ISSUE - CSA HERITAGE CLASSES -
VETERANS ISSUE - IS THE NAACP A RACIST ORGANIZATION (Yea, we want a
vote on that too!!! LET'S GET AFTER THEM FOLKS!!! WE WILL NEVER
SURRENDER THIS CAMPAIGN TILL WE GET THE VOTE. We sent a strong message
to the NAACP and to those legislators at the State House - "We're Back".

A special THANK YOU to all the good ole Rebels out there that made this a success.

www.CSAHPS.com (http://www.csahps.com/)

S.C. LET US VOTE CAMPAIGN & off to a great start!

CSA GREENVILLE S.C. RALLY VIDEO / HOMELAND SECURITY

VISIT www.CSAHPS.COM (http://www.csahps.com/) TO VIEW YOU TUBE VIDEO ON HOME PAGE.

CONFEDERATE RALLY (1,359 IN ATTENDANCE!!!)

Please visit 2 new web pages at www.CSAHPS.com (http://www.csahps.com/)

Visit the tab PUBLIC EDUCATION, CSA and CSA CAMPAIGN SPEECH by Charles
Parks delivered at the Greenville LET US VOTE campaign rally KICK OFF.
You'll be glad you did.

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Crisis! Mayday!

From: torpenhow@charter.net

Y'all mostly failed to show up for our beautiful, exciting, extremely
significant flag rally on Saturday -- God bless those who did -- but
here's something that all must jump on IMMEDIATELY, TODAY, THIS MINUTE
if at all possible: Contact Governor Mark Sanford (regardless of where
you live in the world) here

http://www.scgovernor.com/Contact.asp?sitecontentid=33 (http://www.scgovernor.com/Contact.asp?sitecontentid=33)

and urge him NOT to resign under any circumstances. (I use capsfor emphasis, not shouting.)

The NAACP has never accepted the "compromise" over the C-flag at the SC
state house. Neither have we. Nobody does, except the politicians and
their friends the corporate media poodles. All these have been
slavering for the day Governor Mark Sanford would leave office. Until
now, it was taken for granted this would occur four or eight years
after he took office in 2002.

Now, because of his admittedly appalling immorality, they think they've
got it in the bag. A BILL IS IN THE WORKS FOR REMOVING THE FLAG FROM
THE POLE -- H. 5388!

Every single Republican member of the SC house -- including many we've
had the pleasure of identifying as fully human and even real-world in
recent legislative efforts -- has declared for Sanford's removal from
office.

So, how can I, a known moral fundamentalist and moralizer, be asking you all to stand with him?

Two reasons.

(1) When Sanford goes, it's the flag fight all over again. Either he
finishes his term and some lying little jerk like present Attorney
General André Bauer gets elected, or he is forced to resign now and
Bauer is in the groove sooner, ready to lead the chorus of tolerance,
diversity and removing the Flag the rest of the way into a museum
drawer.

(2) There simply is no context for removing Sanford in this day and
age. His immediate predecessor was Dummacrat Jim Hodges who committed
flagrant election violations among other outrages (not least presiding
over the fall of Old Dixie from the dome). EVEN WITH SANFORD'S ADULTERY
the other pols pale in comparison -- yes, lots and lots of sainted,
churchgoing, baby-kissing REPUBLICAN junior woodchucks included!!! You
think it doesn't go on all through the halls of power? May I show you
some oceanfront real estate in Wyoming?

Enough words from me. Please, just do it. YOU IN MISSISSIPPI ARE NEXT if we don't stop the sons of Sherman here. Go:

http://www.scgovernor.com/Contact.asp?sitecontentid=33 (http://www.scgovernor.com/Contact.asp?sitecontentid=33)

Hold your nose if you need to, but please just get it done. Sanford
must know that the people are not with the GOProstiticians on this
thing. The two choices boil down to a fallen hero and a total rat for
governor. Yes, that's about all we have to choose from at this moment
in the extremely rusted, corroded buckle of the Bible belt -- Bauer or
no Bauer! There are wonderful people running for office but they'll
never get the blessing of these neocons.

Below my message to him -- feel free to use or rephrase any or all of it.

Thank you!! /\/.\/\/.

Governor, it has come to the attention of us upcountry activists that a
rotten conspiracy is in progress against you. The RAPE-ublican
RAP-resentatives have declared that you must quit or be thrown out of
office. This is damnable hypocrisy. How many of them are long-term
adulterers or other malefactors? Look at the POLITICAL crimes of many
of them. Contemplate the evils officially perpetrated by your
predecessors as Governor -- nobody talked about impeaching them!

Scofflaw André Bauer, leading the wolf pack??? The brazenness of it is just astonishing.

It has to be that the RAPE-ublicans are being BRIBED -- such unanimity
doesn't just happen. They forget the main point so easily, i.e. that
your unfortunate moral lapses aside, you are the shining light of
real-world politics this side of Texas. I am a moral absolutist with
the best of them, but can't go along with the illogic and unreality of
the case against you.

I have been meaning to write you an open letter in the form of a
booklet listing all the good things you have done for the state, the
nation and in turn the world, but it's too daunting a task. Firstly you
refused to listen to the NAACP about the Flag (please NOT, Sir --
ever). I don't even perceive that you are a strong Flag or Confederate
partisan, but your common-sense attitude toward the South-haters is
breathtaking. THANK YOU FOR IT!

Secondly -- just covering the highlights, now -- you did right on Real
ID. I've been heavily involved in both the above battles, and still
can't somehow believe that you have slammed the door in trouble's face
on them!

Thirdly, you have stood your ground as a fiscal conservative or shall
we say lower-case libertarian (high praise in my book). Most fiscal
conservatives are only fiscal conservatives -- hopeless on other
issues. Not you!

It's almost 3 AM -- I've had a hectic week and day -- but had to tell
you that WE, THE PEOPLE have not forgotten your ongoing great political
work. We never will. We deplore the machinations to remove you, which
are of course significantly aimed at clearing the runway for further
betrayal re the C-flag. And we who love truth and justice beg you and
urge you: please do NOT listen to any calls that you resign. Please
don't do so on your own initiative. You've disappointed many -- no
doubt yourself included -- and lost your incomparable dignity as the
cameras rolled. But SO WHAT in the context of this foul political age?
We're supposed to fire you and deify the late, despicable Teddy
Kennedy?

What IS this?

Please, Sir, STAND FIRM. On your job, on the C-Flag, on everything
about your return to Christian morals. My prayer is that all concerned
-- not least the people of South Carolina -- will witness how a true
Christian overcomes sin and will all be edified.

THANK YOU, GOVERNOR.

Nelson Waller, M.Mus.

Associate of Dr. William Carter

***********************

My Letter of Support to South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford

From: patrick.tyndall@att.net

Dear Governor Sanford,

Please do NOT resign your office. We, the citizens of South Carolina,
elected you because we wanted GOOD GOVERNMENT. And while we are sorely
disappointed by your admitted moral lapse, we who love liberty here
have never been disappointed by the principled stand you have taken and
the courage you have shown in faithfully executing the duties of your
office.

Who but you would stand up to the bullying and threats of the NAACP?
What governor but you has stood up for his State and its citizens by
opposing the federal government's unceasing encroachment on our sacred
rights? (I was proud to stand behind you when at an Upcountry DMV
office you signed into law S.449, the most succinct and definitive
anti-REAL ID legislation in the country. And your subsequent March,
2008 letter to DHS Sec. Chertoff was a masterful example of your true
statesmanship.) Who but you would combat our legislature's pork-barrel
profligacy by hauling a couple of piglets into the Statehouse?

Let's be honest. The politicians now calling for your removal from
office - especially those who call themselves your friends - are for
the most part just opportunistic hypocrites. "We can't get anything
done with Gov. Sanford so discredited and so distracted", they say.
Well, I personally can't think of anything worse for South Carolina
than that your political enemies would succeed in "getting done" what
they want to do.

I know I speak for millions of South Carolinians when I say that I am still proud to have you as my governor.

My prayers are with you and your family, Sir.

Please stand firm, and do not resign your office.

Sincerely,

Patrick Tyndall

Former US Senate Candidate (Constitution Party)

Simpsonville, South Carolina

***********************

LTTE Re: Lincoln exhibit

From: GeorgiaFlagger@joimail.com

To: bbrowning@times-georgian.com

Dear Editor

My question is - "Should we be grateful for the Neva Lomason Library Lincoln display here in Carrollton?"

I went to see it on 4 occasions. It is very professionally done, is
complimented by excellent full color brochures and literature, with
pictures and artifacts - even has some limited interactivity. The very
pleasant and hospitable Holly Lane was a 'tour guide' for my Saturday
visits.

That is about the extent of my positive experiences. Most were mainly very to extremely negative.

I sat thru the opening lecture by Dr Bohannon in which pro Lincoln
books were given glowing reviews and those with a differing opinion
were given his blatant stamp of strong disproval. I sensed a slight
leftist bias, but then I saw he got his training from up in Yankeeland
and understood the bias.

I saw very important facts like Lincoln's open and public support (1st
Inaugural Address March 1861) for a Constitutional Amendment (Corwin)
making slavery perpetual and forever permanent was omitted. Also left
out were some other factors like the United State's Congressional
Resolutions of July 1861 giving the REAL reasons for the War - which
DID NOT include slavery.

Oddly, but perhaps not were the racist quotes against blacks by Lincoln
were also not included in this wall of propaganda. Statements where
Lincoln didn't want blacks as equals, blacks to hold office or vote,
and that he favored whites in the superior position over blacks.

In the timeline of slavery in America, they didn't include the
precedent setting case of Mr. Anthony Johnson of 1655 Northampton
County Virginia. Mr. Johnson was a well to do black man, who in 1655
was granted by the Va court the "Lifetime Servitude Rights" of his
black servant John Casor - thus establishing the basis in America for
slavery as we knew it.

The Emancipation Proclamation didn't free a single soul. It exempted
Hampton Roads, New Orleans, West Virginia and Tennessee - anywhere the
Union held control. It also left intact slavery in New Jersey,
Delaware, Maryland, Kentucky, and Missouri.

Of course it also contained other errors - like the blatant lie that
said General Nathan Bedford Forrest 'founded the KKK' when in fact it
was not. The 1871 US Congressional Investigative Committee not only
cleared Forrest of any Klan involvement, he was credited with publicly
calling for it's disbandment in 1869.

So, to answer my original question from above, Carrollton should demand
its money back, demand an apology for the black eye this work of
leftist propaganda gave it's innocent citizens, and hopefully set a
record in packing this monstrosity up and running it and it's creators
out of town on a rail never to return with such lies.

Thanks and God Bless

Billy Bearden

Carrollton Georgia

***********************

The Casualties of War

From: tmanning1@triad.rr.com

Dear SHNV Friends,

I received an unusually high number of positive e-mails from my
response to "The Casualties of War." Bruce Buwalda, a gentleman from
Missouri with an MBA, drew an unusually insightful conclusion that may
well be more true than I used to be willing to admit. His conclusion
said, "With such a precedent established for war, the U.S victors had
no right in participating in war crimes tribunals on the vanquished
nations (regardless of the enormity of the crimes), due to the stain on
her hands from the war between the states." That the United States
have no humility and know no shame is something still recognized by
unreconstructed Southerners. This statement could also be said of the
French following the French Revolution and of the Russian's following
the communist revolution and it is surely true of China following the
Red Revolution. Modernity's violence is nearly always caused by
strongly centralized governments with their militarized focus. Such
powers always say, "Freedom (or the way of our government) is not
free." But, true freedom and liberty are more dependent on the
righteous character of a nation than it is the strength of their ever
ready and powerful military. Nations who lose their righteous character
become all the greater threat to nations around them. This is a
spiritual truth that is so lost to us today that it is but a faint
apparition that appears for a few moments and then fades into the mist
of a reconstructed history.

1. Some of the"first concentration camps" were conducted by the United
States of America in the west as holding pins until we could kill the
Indians with small pox, and it did not seem to bother anyone that
thousands of Indians died in the "Removal" to Oklahoma. The English had
used small pox against us earlier in our history and that evidently
established a precedent for the United States. The "Supreme Race" idea
is tied to the American sense of "Divine Destiny," even though other
peoples were already living the areas we sought to claim as "belonging"
to us.

2. The whole concept of "ethnic cleansing" was practiced by the United
States against American Indians by the establishment of removal and the
reservation system and then later was used against ethnic Germans
through the Morgenthau Plan. In the Morgenthau Plan, written by Henry
Morgenthau, Jr. United States Secretary of the Treasury, the United
States, England and Russia killed over 2 1/2 million German civilians
after World War II was over, loaded German civilians like cattle on
rail cars (exactly like the Germans did to Jews and other Europeans)
and relocated 15,000,000 more Germans in our assisting England in its
plan to control European markets for its own homeland industries and
restrict Germans from doing anything except farming. Had not the
Morganthau Plan been halted the plan would have exterminated European
Germans from the face of the earth. Tens of millions of more Germans
would have been exterminated. For Confederate Southerners this meant
that cities and towns that existed before Lincoln's War no longer
exist. Now those of us who have followed our ancestors are STILL
UNDERGOING cultural cleansing.

3. The term "Total War" was coined under Abraham Lincoln by the United
States against the Confederate States of America. Hitler loved and
adopted the notion.

4. The "extermination" of various European peoples (not just Jews) was
made to seem reasonable by the extensive use by the United States
military's of the term and the practice. It was used near the
beginning of Abraham Lincoln's U.S. War to Prevent Southern
Independence by general's Hunter, Sheridan and Butler from the time of
the very beginning of the war. Dozens of other U.S. generals used the
term and were ordered to facilitate a massive genocide against
Southerners, especially against their civilians. Their Southern
civilian targets were the women, children and the elderly who remained
in the cities. Sherman stated before congress that 80% of the U.S.
military force used again the South was against "their civilians."

5. Hitler's "hatred for the Jews" was fired-up to uncontrolled
proportions by two books written against Judism by the U.S. car maker
Henry Ford. Hitler send his emissaries to the United States and awarded
Henry Ford the highest metal of honour that Germany has ever awarded to
a foreign national. This is a story seldom admitted to by World war II
historians. It is O.K. to hate Hitler and Germans but not O.K. to hate
the Marxism and national socialism that provided a structure for their
genocidal activities.

6. Decades ago the apostate descendants of the radical Puritans
(commonly and proudly, of course, calling themselves "yankee's") living
in the Deep North (New England) gave up their radicalized Calvinism and
gave birth to the "eugenics movement" long before Hitler's death
chambers. These people surrendered their belief in God and the Bible
and became atheists and agnostics who embraced transcendentalism,
socialism, communism and Unitarianism. They had always hated Christians
who differed with them in beliefs and continued to shun any level of
tolerance toward Christians and especially toward those who held the
more "orthodox" Biblical beliefs.

Socialist like Margaret Sanger (Margaret Higgins Sanger Slee 1879-1966)
and earlier Susan B. Anthony (1820-1906) were "feminist" activists in
pushing American birth control. Sanger became the founder of the
American Birth Control League which became Planned Parenthood. She
spoke to the KKK pushing her views. The feminist movement was a
supremist white female movement seeking to stop the birth of non-white
babies first in North America and then in the rest of the world. In her
drive to promote contraception and abortion which was a distinguishing
manifestation of "negative eugenics (as witnessed in the Nazi
movement)," Sanger remains a hero of American liberals composed of
American Nazi's, neo-Nazi's, Fabian socialists and apostate Evangelical
churches. Northern Evangelical churches readily accepted abortion into
their "value systems." ((Atheists and agnostics have "values" while
Christians have "morals." Values are defined through rationalism and
the use of Marxist democracy and morals are defined through the study
of the Bible.)) Susan B. Anthony remains a hero honoured by an U.S.
dollar coin issued by the government of the United States of America in
her "honour." Anthony traveled the United States and Europe for 45
years giving 75 to 100 speeches every year on "women's rights." The
legacy of Lincoln, the feminists and other American socialists is an
aggressive culture of death.

Thank you Mr. Buwalda. I now believe that you are more right than the
history of the stale court historians which is constructed to make us
feel comfortable with the agnostic notions of the American empire.

Deo Vindice.

Timothy D. Manning, M. Div

Executive Director

North Carolina Heritage Foundation

3018 Charleston Highway

Cayce, South Carolina 29172

(336) 420-5355

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Parks Cemetery Ridge Confederate Memorial Plaza

From: yodelvalleyfarm@msn.com

The Parks Cemetery Ridge Confederate Memorial Plaza is located in NW
Tennessee adjacent to the Interstate highway. They have erected a huge
Battle Flag as the center of a memorial plaza which will feature an
historic granite monument with bronze plaques on opposite sides. The
plaques will contain (1) My poem, "Southern Battle Flag," and (2) The
SCV Charge by Lt General S. D. Lee. The plaza will be paved with
bricks, and donors may have their Confederate ancestor's name engraved
on a brick for $50. Since my poem is being featured, I purchased a
brick in honor of my Confederate Great Grandfather David Wade Price,
writer-poet-artist-pianist, who I'm sure would be so proud.

They have kindly invited me to the dedication to recite my poem, and it appears this will happen next April.

I am so excited!

Betty

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Northern Nullification

From: bernhard1848@att.net

The antebellum Northern States effectively nullified the Constitution
as they openly refused to return fugitives from labor in the South,
while at the same time preaching treasonous “higher law” fiction. The
subject mentioned below, George Wilkins Kendall, was a true “embedded
reporter” of an earlier time as he accompanied General Winfield Scott
from Vera Cruz to Mexico City on “The Long Walk.”

Bernhard Thuersam, Director

Cape Fear Historical Institute

Wilmington, North Carolina

www.cfhi.net (http://www.cfhi.net/)

Northern Nullification:

“George Wilkins Kendall</font>

Edited by: Nelson3

Nelson3

12-04-2009, 05:12 PM

My my my my MY, this news is making NO noise. Gee, why not???smileys/smiley4.gifsmileys/smiley7.gif

http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2009/dec/04/28-of-sanford s-charges-dropped/
28 of Sanford's charges dropped</span></font>

For whatever reason, this also just in. I assume he wanted to send it some time back but wanted to wait till some of the mud thrown at him dried up and fell off.

STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA
OFFICE OF THE GOVERNOR
MARK SANFORD, GOVERNOR

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: Ben Fox 803-734-2100 bfox@gov.sc.gov (http://ssomail.charter.net/do/mail/message/mailto?to=bfox%40gov.sc.gov)

Gov. Sanford Updates Sec. Napolitano on REAL ID
CONTINUED CONCERNS WITH REAL ID AND PASS ID OUTLINED

Columbia, S.C. - December 4, 2009 - In a letter sent earlier this week, Gov.
Mark Sanford both updated Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano on South
Carolina's progress in making the state's driver's licenses more secure, and
reiterated the administration's strong concerns that the federal REAL ID law
represents both an infringement on constitutional liberties and an unacceptable
cost burden to the states.

"South Carolina continues to make strides toward protecting the personal
information contained in our driver's licenses, including technological advances
that enhance security and guard against fraud and ID theft," said Gov. Mark
Sanford. "Given that our state's driver's licenses continue to be among the most
secure in the nation, we remain skeptical of claims that REAL ID or PASS ID is
the safest and wisest route for our state and country. While attempts to contain
some of the costs associated with REAL ID in the recently amended legislation
are commendable, this federal mandate still infringes on liberty and privacy
rights, and in this case, discretion and caution indeed seem the better part of
valor. So for that reason, and for the fact that our state law currently
prevents South Carolina from complying with REAL ID, we will continue to stand
out from under this unfunded federal mandate."

In March of 2008, Gov. Sanford refused to apply for an extension of the
federally imposed deadline on compliance with REAL ID - in effect forcing the
U.S. Department of Homeland Security to issue an assurance that South
Carolinians would not be penalized during travel or when visiting federal
buildings. Gov. Sanford argued that the South Carolina DMV had already met 90
percent of REAL ID's benchmarks; that the legislation had never been properly
debated in Congress; that the law represented a $9 billion unfunded mandate; and
- most importantly - that REAL ID presented serious threats to individual
liberty.

In July of this year, Gov. Sanford again raised concerns about PASS ID, the
legislatively-revised REAL ID, and specifically questioned whether secondary
levels of screening would be mandated, and whether the new bill's voluntary
pilot program establishing a centralized hub of citizens' identities would in
time become mandatory. To date, these concerns have not been addressed. </pre>

Nelson3

12-05-2009, 03:13 AM

Yet more angles from thoughtful compatriots -- via email:

icki</span></font> S. had
a very good question, actually her husband raised the question, and she
forwarded it to me. In these hard economic times, it’s reasonable
to believe most of the legistraitors who are self employed and on the committee
could be experiencing a drought in their own businesses. So the question
that was asked is 'are these “out of session” legislators being paid
in addition</span> to their normal
legislator pay while serving on the committee? And if so, how much
more?' </span></font>

</span></font>

The legistraitors complain about state revenues being
down. How much more are the coffers being drained by holding these
hearings?</span></font>

</span></font>

After reading these articles please do what you can to “persuade”
the legistraitors to do the right thing.</span></font>
</span></font>The
proposed censure appears as if the legistraitors think they must do
"something" so 'censure' becomes the "something". It sure didn't hurt
Lindsey Graham. What nonsense.</span></font>

</span></font>Write these guys. Call them at home AFTER 9pm!</span></font>