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Michael
06-07-2009, 04:17 PM
An piece entitled "A Nebraska Reader Reports Hispanic Bloggers Savaging Sotomayor; etc.
Another website poster described his view of the ethnic rift between Mexicans and Puerto Ricans
a Mexican from Texas, was unimpressed with Sotomayor because she’s not "a true Chicano"
http://www.vdare.com/letters/tl_060609.htm#b1
In the past the term Mexican has been used to mean mestizo, Puerto Ricans used to mean Mulattos, and Cuban to describe White Spanish. Though each group contain all three type individuals the majority at least in the past was made up of the group that the name refer to.
Despite all the attempts by the "elite" to lump the "Hispanics" together, they still divide themselves by race!
Nelson3
06-08-2009, 03:08 AM
Oh, boy, isn't THAT rich.
Remember, in many demographic studies Hiss-panics are routinely classed as white.
Michael
07-29-2009, 10:37 PM
Oh, boy, isn't THAT rich.
Remember, in many demographic studies Hiss-panics are routinely classed as white.
Yes, if a "Hispanic" comments a crime they are classified as White. If a "Hispanic" is the victim they are classified as "Hispanic", so if a "Hispanic" assaults a "Hispanic" it is classified as a White assaulting a "Hispanic" but if a "Hispanic" attacks a White it is classified as White on White crime. A quick way to statically raise the White crime rate. Also, Arabs and Jews are classified as Whites in crime statistics
The White crime rate would plunge if only real Whites were classified as Whites in crime statistics.
They say that 24 million "Hispanic" classify themselves as Whites, and since the rule of thumb with "Hispanic" classified is to divide the number in half that probably gives you about 12 million real Whites among the "Hispanic" which probably is about the number of Arabs and Jews being misclassify as Whites.
Michael
08-27-2009, 10:30 PM
An article entitled "The First Thing We Do, Let’s Abolish The Hispanics!"
The Hispanic electoral tidal wave you always hear about actually consists of an artificial agglomeration of people who don’t share the elemental ties of race, looks, national origin, cuisine—or even language (Linda Chavez's son was placed in "bilingual" i.e. Spanish-language classes by public school bureaucrats simply because his first name was Pablo. Chavez’ family have not spoken Spanish for generations.)
In fact, many "Hispanics" dislike each other due to national, racial and class divides. Honduras, for example, was invaded by El Salvador in 1967 after a World Cup qualifying soccer game. Thousands died. And, as the recent coup in Honduras showed once again, Latin Americans are sorely divided along overlapping lines of race and class. Just ask Venezuela’s Hugo Chavez—he’ll tell you!
What "Hispanics" do share now is legal privilege. By granting Mexicans, Cubans, Puerto Ricans, Paraguayans etc. etc. preferences for being "Hispanic", Nixon and the federal bureaucracy conjured up a pan-Hispanic political class dedicated to uniting together to defend this special treatment.
http://www.vdare.com/sailer/090826_hispanics.htm
Michael
02-23-2010, 11:11 PM
An piece entitled "A Buenos Aires Native Wonders What Would Happen If Argentina Were Our Southern Neighbor"
What if America’s south of the border neighbor were Argentina instead of Mexico?
Americans would never complain about immigration from the south because Argentina is 97 percent white.
In the U.S., a Hispanic is perceived as brown Mexican or Central American with Aztec or Mayan roots, possibly a black from the Caribbean islands or any "mulatto'' that speaks Spanish.
That is why when Americans visit Argentina, they can't believe their eyes and think somehow they took the wrong flight and landed in Europe.
All this because of the misconception and /or ignorance in the use of the term "Hispanic" to indicate a race that does not exist. Just because a people speak the same language does not mean they are of the same race.
http://www.vdare.com/letters/tl_022210.htm
Of course, the main reason the USA did not take all of Mexico after the Mexican-American War was that there were too many nonwhites in Mexico.
Michael
02-24-2010, 10:36 PM
An article entitled "Marco Rubio, "Coconut" Or "Great White Hope"?"
Cubans aren’t Spanish speaking members of ethnic minorities–they’re Spanish. The white Cubans tend to be Republicans, and anti-Communists. They were the productive class in Cuba–that’s why they had to leave.
Mexican-Americans in the Southwest, on they other hand, are either Indians, or mestizos. They were the not-very-productive-class in Mexico–that’s why they had to leave.
The GOP and National Review keep hoping the Mexican-Americans and Mexican immigrants will turn into Cubans. This is a delusion. In 2009, NR did a couple of articles about Ted Cruz, a Hispanic Republican in Texas. See Cruz Control | A Republican star rises in Texas by Mark Hemingway. May 4, 2009 [Subscriber link] and A Great Reaganite Hope, &c., by Jay Nordlinger, May 12, 2009. I’m willing to accept that Ted Cruz is a great American, genuine conservative, great communicator, and so on. But he’s also a white Cuban-American, son of a white refugee from Batista.
And it says something that the GOP’s Hispanic outreach in Texas has produced not a patriotic Tejano, but a Great White Hispanic.
http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2010/02/24/marco-rubio-coconu (http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2010/02/24/marco-rubio-coconut-or-great-white-hope/) t-or-great-white-hope/
Michael
03-14-2010, 05:17 PM
An article entitled "Tea Partiers Accused Of Racism Against White Hispanic Democrat"
http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2010/03/11/tea-partiers-accus (http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2010/03/11/tea-partiers-accused-of-racism-against-white-hispanic-democrat/) ed-of-racism-against-white-hispanic-democrat/
Michael
03-28-2010, 05:15 PM
A piece entitled " A Hispanic American Is Shocked To See Mexican Criminals Identified As White"
Being Hispanic is an ethnicity and not a race. Since the politically correct folks have created what I call the Cult of Diversity, why is it that these brown criminals are identified as white?
Hispanics are white (Caucasians), brown (Amerindians) and black (Africans). They have in common Spanish surnames and the Spanish language. Each Latin American country has its own local culture that has evolved from the Spaniards'.
http://www.vdare.com/letters/tl_032710.htm#b3
DixieDestroyer
03-28-2010, 08:15 PM
A piece entitled " A Hispanic American Is Shocked To See Mexican Criminals Identified As White"
Being Hispanic is an ethnicity and not a race. Since the politically correct folks have created what I call the Cult of Diversity, why is it that these brown criminals are identified as white?
Hispanics are white (Caucasians), brown (Amerindians) and black (Africans). They have in common Spanish surnames and the Spanish language. Each Latin American country has its own local culture that has evolved from the Spaniards'.
http://www.vdare.com/letters/tl_032710.htm#b3
I'm not "shocked", but disgusted in this blatant cultural marxist manipulation of stats. When the crime is committed by a Latino, then they're labeled as "White", yet when the victim IS a Latino, then the victim is NOT listed as White. Typical shenanigans by the controlled MSM.
Michael
05-27-2010, 11:19 PM
An article entitled "Interracial Marriage: 2008 Stats"
In Southern California, I just do not see 38% of the couples walking down the street together where at least one person is Latino and the other person is white. I’d say it’s more like 10%. Maybe it’s different in Texas. Maybe interethnic marriage is most common among very white Hispanics, possibly ones who are only 1/2 or 1/4 Hispanic by ancestry, so these couples are not very visible by looks.
http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2010/05/26/interracial-marria (http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2010/05/26/interracial-marriage-2008-stats/) ge-2008-stats/
In college, I knew a half "Hispanic" girl. By what I heard second hand her father was a service man who married a local woman when he was station in Spain. She by virtue of her father a U.S. Citizens but she was half Spanish and had been raised in Spain, so she be classified by the U.S. government as "Hispanic".
Last I knew she was dating a blonde German, so if she married him and they stayed in the USA which they could via her citizenship then they would be classified as an "interracial" couple! To top it off this girl was from northern Spain and when I first heard her speak though she was probably French. Both this woman and her mother would be classified by the U.S. government as "nonwhite". Even though anyone who saw them would say that they were White!
Michael
09-12-2010, 10:06 PM
An article entitled "Hispanics assimilating toward victim class "
As you can see in the table, over the past four decades fewer and fewer GSS respondents of Mexican descent self-identify as white. In the 1970s, almost all Mex-Ams thought they were Caucasian. The drop could be due to fewer recent white Mexican immigrants and/or due to a reduced tendency to call oneself white.
http://inductivist.blogspot.com/2010/09/hispanics-assimilati (http://inductivist.blogspot.com/2010/09/hispanics-assimilating-toward-victim.html) ng-toward-victim.html
A comment from the above page is interesting
C.O. Jones said...
Jokah - Correct. Before 1970, most of the Mexican Americans were immigrants from the northern part of Mexico or their descendants. Today most come states like Chiapas and Oaxaca. As a result, you have more "white" people in a place like Mexicali than you do in Los Angeles. Weird.
Michael
09-17-2010, 10:43 PM
An article entitled "TV Azteca or TV Conquistadora?"
Well, the big news is the sexual harassment charge leveled by on-air reporter Inez Sainz of TV Azteca, the Mexican network, against a locker room full of naked New York Jets football players for their being verbally appreciative of how she orders her cleaning lady to run her jeans through the dryer seven times at 900 degrees centigrade. Nicholas Stix has the full story.
The TV Azteca reporter is the former Miss Spain. Too bad. If she had been Miss Italy and she was a professor at the City University of New York, then she’d be golden.
http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2010/09/15/tv-azteca-or-tv-co (http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2010/09/15/tv-azteca-or-tv-conquistadora/) nquistadora/
Michael
09-20-2010, 10:19 PM
An article entitled "The Fair Jessica Calls Arizona Racist"
With machetes? But I don’t believe that Miss Alba grew up in Pomona, California, as the victim of prejudice against “people of Mexican appearance.”
A while back, Steve Sailer asked OK, How White Are Hispanics?, and the answer is it varies widely. Cuban exiles and their descendants, very white. Mixtec speaking Indians from Chiapas, not so much. Most Mexicans are somewhere in between.
For Miss Alba, we know exactly. Mexican American TV host George Lopez, who looks like a Mexican, has been getting celebrities to take DNA tests, and he revealed to Miss Alba, much to her dismay, that she is 87 percent white
http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2010/09/18/the-fair-jessica-c (http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2010/09/18/the-fair-jessica-calls-arizona-racist/) alls-arizona-racist/
Nelson3
09-20-2010, 11:18 PM
Hah!! Rich irony, that --
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alba
Alba is basically the feminine of the word for "white" in Latin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A._alba_%28disambiguation%29
......leading to numerous words like alb, album, and albumen.
Edited by: Nelson3
Michael
10-10-2010, 05:40 PM
An article entitled "No Kidding, Sherlock: Mexico’s Racial Stratification Reported As News By UPI"
Mexico’s ruling class, (also its productive class–there’s a reason they’re on top) is composed of mostly white people descended from the Conquistadors, and and people of immigrant stock like Carlos Sarukhan, the Mexican-Armenian ambassador to the United States.
I believe the last President of Mexico who wasn’t white was Lazaro Cardenas, a radical who nationalized the oil companies, ensuring that oil exploration in Mexico would be done by the Mexican government. (Yes, they are running out of oil.)
http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2010/10/09/no-kidding-sherloc (http://blog.vdare.com/archives/2010/10/09/no-kidding-sherlock-mexicos-racial-stratification-reported-as-news-by-upi/) k-mexicos-racial-stratification-reported-as-news-by-upi/
Michael
03-27-2011, 06:26 PM
An article entitled "Ruben Navarrette Says The Hispanicization Of The U.S. Is Inevitable. Do Americans Have Any Say?"
From this photograph, we see that (1) Navarrette has a very smug and arrogant expression on his face; and (2) he looks like a white Hispanic, which is certainly not uncommon among Hispanic activists and leaders. In fact, if you put a conquistador helmet (maybe like this one) on him, he would sure fit the part. (See my column Spanish and the New Conquistadors).
Yes, yes, but not very many. The vast territory which is now the U.S. Southwest was sparsely inhabited before and during the period 1836-1853, when it passed from Mexican to American jurisdiction. (See my On Guadalupe Hidalgo Day, Here’s Why the U.S. Has Title to the Southwest).
The vast majority of Hispanics, even in Border States, are not descended from the inhabitants of the region when it belonged to Mexico, but from recent immigrants (legal and illegal) in the past few decades. (In fact, an amazing 38% of the current U.S. Hispanic population is foreign-born).
We are regularly told that various trends are"inevitable"—but few really are. What usually happens is that people who want something to happen start proclaiming that it is "inevitable".
If present trends continue, the U.S. will become an appendage of Latin America. But present trends need not continue—if the historical majority of the U.S. wakes up.
http://www.vdare.com/awall/110325_memo.htm
Looks like a small number of White "Hispanics" are envisioning themselves as a new "elite" ruling over a brown "Hispanic" mass in "Aztlan" just like White "Hispanics" do in most of Latin America, probably, along with a few Jews. Of course, common White "Hispanics" won't be wanted in "Aztlan" except to pay for everything.
Michael
05-24-2011, 11:29 PM
An article entitled "Mexican anti-gang activist: Mexicans in America should stop killing each other, and team up against the white man"
Out in California, and lot of other places for that matter, Mexican (Hispanic/Latino/Chicano/whatever…) gangs have pretty much driven out the black gangs. They killed a bunch of them, and as blacks moved out to get away from Mexicans, there simply weren’t that many blacks left in the neighborhood to shoot at. So now “racism” is infecting Mexican gangs, and they’re turning on each other based on the the color of their skin. And one Mexican anti-gang activist has had enough.
http://www.thepoliticalcesspool.org/jamesedwards/2011/05/22/ (http://www.thepoliticalcesspool.org/jamesedwards/2011/05/22/mexican-anti-gang-activist-mexicans-in-america-should-stop-killing-each-other-and-team-up-against-the-white-man/) mexican-anti-gang-activist-mexicans-in-america-should-stop-k illing-each-other-and-team-up-against-the-white-man/
Michael
06-09-2011, 08:52 PM
A piece entitled "Reader Erick Fuessner With More On The Physical Anthropology Of Mexican Beauty Queens—Plus Pictures"
Seńorita Navarrete, although she is (apparently) predominantly of European ancestry, would be cataloged as a Mestiza in official statistics. To be more specific she is a Castiza. A Castiza (female) or Castizo (male) is a subdivision in the Mestizo category to refer to persons of mixed ancestry but still predominantly European—although still considered to be non-white in Mexico.
The Mestizo concept it is a very tricky one, especially in cases in which a person who has either predominantly Indian or European ancestry but is slightly mixed—that person fits instantly in the Mestizo (male) or Mestiza (female) category. By their ancestry and physical look, that very same person could be classified as an Indian or as a European without much trouble in both race and official statistics, but it does not happen.
Why? Well, let's say there is a considerable Mestizo population in Mexico—but it is not as large as the government always wanted to make both insiders and outsiders believe.
In order to avoid the brutal brown vs. white race wars that have happened in other parts of Latin America, the Mexican government adopted the Mestizo myth, saying we are all Mestizos and that's it. Obviously, this was in part done to protect Euro Mexicans, a minority usually found in the higher socioeconomic levels, from the largely impoverished Amerindian population.
http://www.vdare.com/letters/tl_060811.htm
Nelson3
06-09-2011, 10:47 PM
Great find, Michael. Race as an issue just doesn't ever want to settle down.... as long as there's more than one race in a place.
Michael
01-15-2012, 04:01 PM
An article entitled " What’s to Become of Hispanic Identity?"
http://amren.com/news/2012/01/whats-to-become-of-hispanic-identity/
realgeorge88
01-16-2012, 11:34 PM
"Hispanics" and "Mestizos" and "Castizos" and all the rest are pretty well united in one view: They positively hate White-dominated anything, especially the core White culture and power in the United States. Approximately zero percent of "Hispanics" and "Mestizos" and "Castizos" will ever voluntarily support a restoration of traditional White North America.
Michael
04-25-2012, 09:52 PM
An article entitled "NASCAR diversity program rejected Puerto Rican for being fair-skinned"
NASCAR has been actively insulting their white fan base for a while. Now a Puerto Rican is suing NASCAR for being ejected from their diversity program.
Michael Rodriguez technically qualified for the NASCAR diversity program because he is Puerto Rican. However, NASCAR decided he wasn’t the kind of “Hispanic” they are looking for. Rodriquez is very fair-skinned.
Rodriguez was allegedly told he looked like the “poster boy for the Ku Klux Klan” by one of NASCAR’s diversity recruiters. A company called Access was handling NASCAR’s diversity recruitment program at the time. NASCAR has since ended their relationship with Access after they failed to find enough minority drivers.
Rodriguez is suing NASCAR for discrimination. NASCAR argued in court last week that it has the right to discriminate against white people if it is pursuing a more diverse image.
http://cofcc.org/2012/04/nascar-diversity-program-rejected-puerto-rican-for-being-fair-skinned/
Nelson4
04-26-2012, 01:52 PM
There's a perfect example of "liberal" hypocrisy -- the umbrella term is "multiculturalism" but it's not about culture, it's about skin color in our supposedly colorblind society today!
That guy should sue NASCAR over its PC tyranny. Similarly, any white South African or Namibian who comes here should demand all the rights and privileges of being an African-American. The term is literally true of them, and if the System wants to use euphemisms instead of revealing its real racial agenda, they deserve to be sued big time.
Michael
08-18-2012, 06:52 PM
An article entitled "Oaxacan Festival Moves to Eastside in Bid for Wider Audience"
http://www.amren.com/news/2012/08/oaxacan-festival-moves-to-eastside-in-bid-for-wider-audience/
Nelson4
08-20-2012, 01:42 PM
Since the gews forced ameriKa into the mold of "propositional nation of immigrants with no culture of its own" every nonwhite ethnicity looks at the USA as a nice big empty stage on which to perform their "poor us" dance. ameriKa loves and embraces everybody, it's the center of the universe, so doing the dance here is like getting free TV prime time coverage, so they think.
One day 25 years ago I lived in Jew Jersey and had a musical mission in Brooklyn. All traffic experienced an hour delay because thousands of HAITIANS were demonstrating on one of the main thoroughfares. They mattered everything -- ameriKan motorists zilch. The police looked to their needs, not ours. It made no logical sense for them to demonstrate anywhere outside of Haiti much less where it would cause so much inconvenience in the heart of the world's most bodacious city.
All of which stinks of gefiltefish -- it's simply Judaism and Zionism in action. That's all it is, 100.000 percent of it! Foreign people with nothing in common with this country wrapping it around their little finger because alien ideas have profoundly permeateddominate everything, turning America into ameriKa. Yes, Virginia, lots of things are just that simple!
Michael
11-03-2012, 06:10 PM
An article entitled "Little Blonde Beggar Girl Whose Treatment Has Sparked Race Row in Mexico"
http://www.amren.com/news/2012/10/little-blonde-beggar-girl-whose-treatment-has-sparked-race-row-in-mexico/
Nelson4
11-04-2012, 11:55 PM
Man that's bizarre! Seem to have missed it at AmRen.
Michael
11-05-2012, 09:06 PM
No pictures of the girl's parents, so it might be that her mother might be a deeply tanned White.
Michael
05-06-2013, 09:23 PM
An article entitled "Bill Richardson, AKA William Blaine Richardson III: Ted Cruz Is Not Really Hispanic"
This is really stupid of Richardson. It's true that Ted Cruz has a white Cuban father, and an Irish/Italian mother, and thus looks, as Steve Sailer has pointed out, like a young Pat Buchanan.
This is Ted Cruz. It is not Pat Buchanan.
But the man who's saying he shouldn't count as Hispanic is William Blaine Richardson III, a Mayflower descendant whose Mexican ancestors were of pure Spanish background. He looks more like Jackie Gleason in the Honeymooners.
http://www.vdare.com/posts/william-blaine-richardson-iii-ted-cruz-is-not-really-hispanic
The ivory calling the pearl White!
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