The 1/2 Jew Question

[BulldogNationalist]

There is something that I have been wondering about for quite sometime now. That is the question of the 1/2 Jew in the Nationalist Movement. I recently found out an associate of mine, who is extemely patriotic, and pro-nationalist, is what one would consider 1/2 Jewish. I never knew, nor considered him Jewish, because he didn't practice the religion, or have a Jewish sounding last name, and never refered to himself as anything but a White man. For as long as I knew him he has been extremely pro-White, and pro-Nationalist. He told me that he did not consider himself Jewish, because in the laws of Judaism, Jewishness is only passed on through maternal lines, therefore true Jews dont believe in the 1/2 Jew, its pretty much, your only Jewish if your mother is, or if you convert. Having a Jewish father means nothing in the eyes of real Jews. Even the LAW OF RETURN in Isreal is based on that rule. He told me his father, was never religious, and never raised him Jewish, and that his mother had brought him up, I think Presbyterian, or some Christian denomination. He was never bar-mitzvahed, but was baptized. I was wondering where someone like this would fit in, in the Nationalist Movement. I wanted to turn him on to the ANU but was wondering where someone like this would fit in. He is not considered Jewish at all by the Jewish people, nor does he consider himself to be Jewish. He looks, and acts and thinks White. I think most will agree too that being White aside from a race is also a state of mind. There are plenty of White people who are against anything pro-White or Nationalist, they are for multiculturalism, and race-mixing, and their interests are not in their race or country at all. I once read on another pro-White website when they asked if Jews were white, some said yes, some said no, some said it depends, and another person said "if a person is half black, and half White that doesn't make him White" Which I agree with 100% But there is a big difference between someone who is half black and someone who is a blonde haired blue-eyed, 1/2 Jew. So can anyone post their thoughts on this topic, and let me know some opinions on this 1/2 Jew on the fathers side question. Is their room, or acceptance in the Nationalist Movement for some one like that. Keep in mind that this aquaintance of mine, is extremely pro-White, pro-Nationalist, Anti-this war, and Anti Immigration, etc. In my eyes he is a true Nationalist, like the rest of us. Edited by: BulldogNationalist

[Am Nat]

I don't see why he wouldn't be a Nationalist. Far too many racially conscious whites think there are no blue-collar Jews and no assimilated Jews. Guess what, there are!


Jews are portrayed by the media as marching in lockstep with AIPAC and the ADL and other anti-white organizations -- whichat the same timesupport the Jewish Supremacist Ethnostate of Israel. It is these gangster organizations which control the U.S. government and media, not the average Jews out there, of which there are more than most people realize.

[Wolfram]

[QUOTE=Am Nat]


I don't see why he wouldn't be a Nationalist. Far too many racially conscious whites think there are no blue-collar Jews and no assimilated Jews. Guess what, there are!


Jews are portrayed by the media as marching in lockstep with AIPAC and the ADL and other anti-white organizations -- whichat the same timesupport the Jewish Supremacist Ethnostate of Israel. It is these gangster organizations which control the U.S. government and media, not the average Jews out there, of which there are more than most people realize. /QUOTE]


On the whole, I would tend to agree with you. Down through the years, I've known a few blue-collar Jews and they were quite different from the Abe Foxman and Charles Schumer type.


I recall reading something a few years ago about Air Marshal Erhard Milch having had a Jewish grandparent, which occasioned the famous remark of Hermann Goering, "I decide who is an white!"


P.

I think the question here is not so much, "are there assimilated jews?" I think what the question that was being asked from my understanding is that, would this individual be accepted as a Nationalist, or a White Nationalist? or Would he be condsidered in the Nationalist Movement, a "1/2 jew" with pro Nationalist views. I would consider that person to be a White Man. Personally, I tend to agree with the jews on the whole "your either a jew or your not" The whole concept to me of the 1/2 jew is rediculous. If you have 1 jewish parent, but you practice the religion exclusively, are you not a jew? I honestly think of it like this. To quote bulldog, "I think most will agree too that being White aside from a race is also a state of mind" I feel the same way about jews. If you practice the religion, and are for the state of isreal and the jewish people, and pro Zionist, then you are jewish, whether you have one jewish parent or two. But if you are born to a jewish father, who didnt raise you to practice that religion, and you dont believe in or practice the religion, and the religion itself wont accept you, because you dont have a jewish mother, then I must say that person is not a jew. I knew a kid when i was in high school who was very similar to the person described above. The difference was he wanted to have a jewish identity, but the jewish kids never accepted him, because of his gentile mother. After a while he just distanced himself from the jewish faith, and had a somewhat resentment for all things jewish. (who could blame him?) For those who want to get into the whole jewish thing on a racial aspect, Yes there are jews that are extremely steriotypical looking. However, there a bunch that arent. I would consider most European jews to be white men and women. I have seen a few eastern European Gentiles, who look extremely "jewish" as well. So the big nose and frizzy hair thing doesnt always work. Just take a look at many Italians (No disrespect meant to any Italian readers).If the jews were originally a race, then they have mixed with europeans over so many years, that i dont think it would count for anything anymore except as white,.If you disagree, take a look at a lot ofWhite Americans, who call themselves white, but haveNativeAmerican blood in them, and that was only a few generations ago. So in myopinion,I would consider bulldogs aquaintance to be a White Man and a White Nationalist.I would not consider him to be jewish, for the mere fact, that he does not practice the religion, and the jewishpeople would not accept him for the fact of his mother.

[Michael]

I recall reading something a few years ago about Air Marshal Erhard
Milch having had a Jewish grandparent, which occasioned the famous
remark of Hermann Goering, "I decide who is an white!"



I believe the Third Reich would refer to the part Jewish people as
half-caste. Some were classified as Jews others as
Whites. I have heard reports that none of the half-caste
declared White betrayed the Germans. What criteria they used to
determined whom was Jewish and who was White I do not know.



I have, also, heard about a doctrine of false
Jews. Basically a belief that some Jews aren’t genetic
Jews. Also, most remember in adoptions that Jewish babies
would command a premium so that White babies could have been passed as
Jewish in some cases.



In the end, the debate is based on who is White,
which as Hermann Goering pointed out is sometimes arbitrary and must be
decided by the Nationalist leadership.

[Don Borowsky]

Someone who is a 'half-Jew' is like a woman who is a little bit pregnant. For at least three thousand years the Jews have mixed with other races and ethnic groups.The only way a Jew could be a racially pure white (White) in present times is if he or she became a Jew by adopting their religion. Don't be fooled by appearance alone. For centuries Gentiles have trusted Jews and lived to regret it. In some cases they have not lived to regret it. I'm sure there are a very, very small percentage of Jews that are harmless. By the same token i'm not going to search for a needle in a haystack the size of the Empire State Building. Trust a Jew at your own peril.

Don Borowski I see your point, and what you said is true almost 100% Trusting Jews is a very hard issue, and notalways thebestdecision. History has proved that. But do you think, or anyone think, that its more so the religious Jews, or the Jews who consider themselves Jews above all who are the ones out to cheat? In the Jewish Talmud, it states more or less thats its perfectly fine to cheat a gentile, because GOYIM are nothing but Cattle. I find the Jews who are more so on that level to be the dangerous ones. The Zionists, the Sharons, the Abe Foxmans, etc. But I think the post itself is talking about a different kind of jew, and if that kind of Jew is even a jew at all. Keep in mind, from the original post, and even the post of WHITE RIDER who knew someone similar, This type of half jew (on the fathers side) is not considered a Jew by any means to the Jewish People. Because it is based only on what the mother is. This type of Jew has no loyalty to the Jewish people, or to Jewish Causes, because he to them is not a Jew. Regardless of his father, he is still Goyim to those. I can understand why someone like that would be sympathetic to the White Nationalist Cause. I couldnt see why he would be out to decieve a bunch of people, to benefit for a group of people that don't accept him anyway. Also true again, about Jews mixing with other races for centuries. But I also read something, I think it was in the 13th or 14th centurya group of Jews from Turkey coverted a lot of people of eastern european countries (Hungary Czeckoslovakia Poland etc) does anyone know about this? Looks can be decieving yes, butI dont know if i buy the whole Jewish/White convertthing. I have known some Jews from Russia, who are Blonde haired, Blue eyed, and they were not "half-Jews"they 100% for generations. At the same time I knew twin brother and sister from Finland, both 100% Nordic, and the boy had brown hair and brown eyes, and the girl had blonde hair and blue eyes. I dont know. I was just saying. I think certain types of Jews are dangerous, but I don't feel that the 1/2-jew (on the fathers side) who was mentioned in the first post would be considered a danger at all.

To point out a little more on whatI was saying. Look at Kevin Costner, Harrison Ford, Jennifer Connely, and Alicia Silverstone, Goldie Hawn, and Kate Hudson. Those are all considered to be White People, but they all havea Jewish Relative. I even heard that Phil Anselmo of the old metal band Pantera is 1/2 Jewish, and that band was always southern pride, and pro-white. Same with Anthrax's Scott Ian. Anthrax was pro-White, and even had an album THE SOUND OF WHITE NOISE. Then you have people like Madonna, who has mixed with other races, and coverted to Judaism, so who is more dangerous?