“It’s an interesting experience,” Mr. Gitel said...........
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<DIV =byline>New York City’s Reservists Are Asked to Return Iraq Pay</DIV>
When they were called up for military service in the wake of 9/11, hundreds of uniformed city workers in the Reserves faced the suspension of their city health and pension benefits. The city offered them an option: it would keep paying their salaries and continue their benefits, but when they returned they would have to repay the city their city salary or their military pay, whichever was less.</DIV></DIV>
On its face, the offer made sense. And many reservists had only a few days to get their affairs together before shipping out — hardly enough time to consult accountants. Nearly all took the deal. As the war dragged on, more than 1,600 city employees, mostly police officers, signed up for the benefits program.
Now the bills from the city are coming due, for far more than many veterans imagined they would have to pay — as much as $200,000 — and often for more money than they ever received.
The city is demanding that the veterans repay their gross salaries, even though they never saw about a third of the money, which went for taxes and other deductions. The commissioner of administrative services, Martha K. Hirst, said veterans should be able to get back the difference between gross and take-home pay by amending their tax returns. But several tax accountants said the city had created an accounting quagmire.
David Gitel, a tax accountant in Manhattan, said that if the employees paid the money back over several years — which many will have to do — rather than in a lump sum, they could lose thousands of dollars in income-tax and social security payments.
“It’s an interesting experience,” Mr. Gitel said.
................Under the terms of the deal, nontaxable military housing and food allowances also count as military pay. Those allowances can nearly double military pay, in some cases making it more than city pay. Many veterans who did not read the fine print said they thought they would have to repay only their modest military take-home base salary.
.....................Employees who pay the money back by payroll deduction, though, could deduct the money from their income only in the year in which they pay it back, officials said.
This causes two problems, said Mr. Gitel, the tax accountant. One is that an employee would probably be in a higher tax bracket during the year she drew two salaries than when she paid the money back. The other problem, Mr. Gitel said, was that there was no way for the employee to get back the extra Medicare and Social Security contributions she made while drawing two salaries. These shortfalls could easily total $10,000, he said.
.................Laurence A. Levy, deputy counsel to Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani in 2001, said the city’s method seemed a better way to protect the employees’ benefits. “In Operation Desert Storm, many of the families didn’t get health benefits, and it caused tremendous financial hardship,” he said. “We wanted to keep them whole”.............</DIV>
What is there to comment on; this web of presumptuous financial gov't entanglement?
It's driven by greed on all sides.
The illegal (undocumented) war has serious elements of greed harbored in the hearts of the neo-cons.
The soldiers sign up to make money killing people.
The gov't confiscates (steals) people's earned money to finace bigger gov't and more power (Socialist Security, Medicare, Medicaid, ad nauseum).
The "health care" system (what a misnomer that is!) way over charges routinely.
Doctors file false claims to make more money.
What a mess.
As for this particular situation in New Yawk, I really don't care what the yankees do to each other, north of the Mason-Dixon.
Uncle, you are bigoted, prejudiced, discriminatory, and contemptuous of others different than yourself. Just the kind of guy we need! [img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img]
Hey, are you folks www.checking LittleGeneva.com like I keep telling you to? There's a TON of good stuff there now including a handful of definitive quotes from the Bible against race mixing, and an immortal quote about our favorite subject...........
“If you gave the Jews Heaven, they’d hang pictures of Hell on the walls.” ~ Ansil Mansur, Egyptian journalist
and this --a TV newssegment showing how gazillions of young kids are being herded more systematically than ever into neocon fundamentalismand "worshiping" a cardboard cutout of George W. Bush!
The youth "leaders" shown are from the pit of hell -- what humans turn into after drinking in edomites hoodoo for generations, even without any direct brainwashing or coercion. How many wood Jew suppose are conscious NWO change agents? One of 'em's called "Pastor Becky Fischer"!...........
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N: "Uncle, you are bigoted, prejudiced, discriminatory, and contemptuous of others different than yourself. Just the kind of guy we need!"
It's rough being a bigot these days.
big ot n. "One who is strongly partial to one's own group, religion, race, or politics and is intolerant of those who differ. (French, from Old French.) American Heritage Dictionary, Third Edition.
guy n. a politically correct yankee unisex term forany of the following:a modern man , or modern woman, or a modern transvestite, or a modern sodomite. (yankee, yankee speak.) Definition Scrounged from Various Places.
A priceless, tragicomic, ultimate look at the real "war" as being fought and led by our illustrious "troops" (formerly "our boys").
The Hashish Army</span>
Is this what we're fighting for?
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try to commit suicide each day, on average, reports the Army Times.
Eighteen succeed, roughly five of whom receive medical care from
Veterans Affairs, rated one of the best health programs in the
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