Isn't this a good one! Just did a search on the above topic for a newsletter i'm editing, and this link was first in line via advanced Google.
http://home.att.net/~quotations/freedom.html
There is not a SINGLE quote from a known white Christian or genuine freedom fighter. In fact, most of the people in the list were henchmen of communism or other forms of total enslavement. Would somebody please tell me how even basic net searching gets turned ultra-liberal wacko? one of the two Google mainmen is named Sergey Brin; wonder what that means.
I like these two.
Freedom is not something that anybody can be
given. Freedom is something people take, and
people are as free as they want to be.
- James Baldwin
Self-reliance is the only road to true freedom,
and being one's own person is its ultimate reward
- Patricia Sampson
Freedom in its true form is not the right to do whatever one wishes, but the right to have a will that triumphs and makes one successful.
Resistance is Fertile!
DISSENTION KEEPS DEMOCRACY ALIVE
One of my all time favorites:
" It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds."
Samuel Adams
Edited by: Traejun
\"We lead by example; We lead from the front.\"
Yes, let's make this our master file of freedom quotes! A few more for the collection below, from a great IRS fighting friend in Indiana.
<DIV>"The law does not pretend to punish everything that is dishonest. </DIV>
<DIV>That would seriously interfere with business."</DIV>
<DIV>-- Clarence S. Darrow</DIV>
<DIV>(1857-1938)</DIV>
<DIV>http://liberty-tree.ca/qb/Clarence.Darrow.Quote.58DF</DIV>
"Petty laws breed great crimes." -- Ouida [Marie Louise de la Ramée] (1839-1908) English novelist 1880
<DIV>http://liberty-tree.ca/qb/Ouida.Quote.2D13</DIV>
"Laws are like cobwebs which may catch small flies, but let wasps and hornets break through."
<DIV>-- Jonathan Swift</DIV>
<DIV>(1667-1745)</DIV>
<DIV>Source: Gullivers Travels, 1726</DIV>
<DIV>http://liberty-tree.ca/qb/Jonathan.Swift.Quote.66ED</DIV>
"Life is a gift, Freedom is a responsibility." Liberty-Tree.ca (c) Copyright 2005
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<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">"Our tax code is an abomination." [/B]<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Former Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill, 2002[/I][/B]<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">[/B]
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<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">[/B]<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">"The IRS has become a symbol of the most intrusive, oppressive and non-democratic institution in our democratic society."[/B]
<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Former IRS Commissioner Fred Goldberg[/I][/B]<I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"> [/I]
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<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">"I don't like the income tax. Every time we talk about these taxes we get around to the idea of 'from each according to his capacity and to each according to his needs'. That's socialism. It's written into the <I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Communist Manifesto[/I]. Maybe we ought to see that every person who gets a tax return receives a copy of the <I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Communist Manifesto[/I] with it so he can see what's happening to him".<BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break">[/B]<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">[/B]
</v:shadow></v:line><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Former IRS Commissioner T. Coleman Andrews
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<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">"... the key question is: can we define 'income' in a fair and reasonably straightforward manner? Unfortunately we have not yet succeeded in doing so. We should repeal the Internal Revenue Code and start over."
<I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Former IRS Commissioner Shirley Peterson, April 1993[/I] [/B]
</v:shadow></v:line><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">"Eight decades of amendments... to [the] code have produced a virtually impenetrable maze... The rules are unintelligible to most citizens... The rules are equally mysterious to many government employees who are charged with administering and enforcing the law".[/B]<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">[/B]
<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Former IRS Commissioner Shirley Peterson, [/I][/B]<?:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com
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<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">Today the income tax is in trouble, because its exaction's are forcing the middle class into poverty, and IRS abuses are routine."[/B]
<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"> <I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Paul Craig Roberts, former Asst. Secretary - U.S. Treasury [/I][/B]
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<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">"The (tax) system is so sick that we must put it to sleep and start over."
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<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Richard Davis, former Assistant IRS Branch Chief[/I] [/B]
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<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">". . . when it comes to the workings of our tax system, I have just about seen it all, and that experience has led me to the conclusion that we should repeal the Internal Revenue Code and start over. Eight decades. . . have produced an impenetrable maze. I favor replacing the system.” [/B]
<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Former IRS Commissioner, Shirley D. Peterson, Attorney[/I][/B]
<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">What Two Presidents Said About The IRS[/B]
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<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">"Our Income Tax system is a disgrace to the human race." [/B]
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<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Jimmy Carter, 1976, During His Presidential Campaign[/I][/B]</H2>
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"Our federal tax system is, in short, utterly impossible, utterly unjust and completely counterproductive [it] reeks with injustice and is fundamentally un-American... it has earned a rebellion and it's time we rebelled.”<BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break">
<H2 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: center" align=center><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">President Ronald Reagan, May 1983, [/I]<st1lace><st1:City><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Williamsburg[/I]</st1:City><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">, [/I]<st1:State><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Va.[/I]</st1:State></st1
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<H3 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">What Will Rogers Said…</H3>
“The IRS has created more liars out of the American public than the game of golf has”.
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<H4 style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 1in; TEXT-ALIGN: left" align=left>Source of Quotes: www.fairtax.org</H4>
"We do not have to visit a madhouse to find disordered minds; our planet is the mental institution of the universe."
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
The greatest threat to freedom is not foreign governments. It is our own.
Here are a few quotes that have appeared over the years in The Nationalist Times</span> and Populist Observer</span>.
A strict observance of the written laws is doubtless one of the highest
duties of a good citizens, but not the highest. The laws of
necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger,
are of higher obligation.” Thomas Jefferson
“Our Government is now taking so steady a course as to show by what
road it will pass to destruction, to wit: by consolidation first and
then corruption, its necessary consequence.” Thomas
Jefferson
“Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate, than that these
people are to be free; nor is it less certain that the two races,
equally free, cannot live in the same government. Nature, habit,
opinion have drawn indelible lines of distinction between them.
It is still in our power to direct the process of emancipation and
deportation, peacefully...if, on the contrary, it is left to force
itself on, human nature must shudder at the prospect...” Thomas
Jefferson
“The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases.” Thomas Jefferson
“The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain
occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often
be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at
all. God forbid that we should ever be 20 years without a
rebellion. What country ever existed a century and a half without
a rebellion? And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers
are not warned from time to time, that their people preserve the spirit
of resistance. Let them take arms.”-Thomas Jefferson
“I am not among those who fear the people. They, and not the
rich, are our dependence for continued freedom. And to preserve
their independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual
debt.
“We must make our election between Economy and
Liberty, or Profusion and Servitude. If we run into such debts,
as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our
necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our
callings and our creeds, as the people of England are, our people, like
them, must come to labor sixteen hours in twenty-four, give the
earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and
daily expenses; and sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we
must live, as they do now, on oatmeal and potatoes; have no time to
think, no means of calling the mismanagers to account; but be glad to
obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the
necks of our fellow-suffers.
“Our landholders, too, like theirs, retaining indeed
the title and stewardship of estates called theirs but really held in
trust for the treasury, must wander, like theirs, in foreign countries,
and be contended with penury, obscurity, exile, and the glory of the
nation.
“This example reads to us the salutary lesson, that
private fortunes are destroyed by public as well as by private
extravagance. And this is the tendency of all human
governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a
precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the
bulk of society is reduced to mere automatons of misery, to have no
sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering. Then begins,
indeed, the bellum omnium in omnia, which some philosophers observing
to be so general in this world, have mistaken it for natural, instead
of the abusive state of man. And the fore horse of the frightful
term is public debt. Taxations follows that, and in its train
wretchedness and oppression.” -Thomas Jefferson, letter to S.
Kercheval, 1816
“Lies need the support of government-truth can stand by itself.”-Thomas Jefferson
“The humblest citizen of all the land, when clad in th armor of a
righteous cause, is stronger than all the host of Error.”
--William Jennings Bryan
“Any man who has the brains to think and the nerve to act for the
benefit of the people of the country is considered radical by those who
are content with stagnation and willing to endure disaster.”
-William Randolph Hearst
“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”- Benjamin Franklin
“Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself.
“They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under
independence. The chruch, the plow, the prairie wagon and
citizen’s firearms are indeliby related.
“From the hour the pilgrims landed, to the present day, events,
occurrences, and tendencies prove that to insure peace, security, and
happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable.
“Every corner of this land knows firearms, and more than 99 and 99/100
percent of them by their silence indicate they are in safe and sane
hands.
“The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil
interference-they deserve a place of honor with all that’s good.
“When firearms go, all goes-we need them every hour.” --George Washington, from an address to the First United States Congress
“As nations cannot be rewarded and punished in the next world, they
must be in this. By an inevitible chain of causes and
effects, Providence punishes national sins by national
calamities.”-George Mason (founding Father)
"The men American people admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars;
the men they detest most violently are those who try and tell them the truth"
--H. L. Mencken
"Who controls the past controls the future, who controls the present controls the past."
George Orwell “1984”
"If a lie is large enough, everyone will believe it."
Adolf Hitler
"No nation can long survive without pride in its traditions."
Winston Churchill
"The Northern onslaught upon slavery was no more than a piece of specious humbug designed to conceal its desire for economic control of the Southern states."
Charles Dickens, 1862
Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy; that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers; will learn from Northern school books their version of the War; will be impressed by all the influences of history and education to regard our gallant dead as traitors, and our maimed veterans as fit subjects for derision. --- General Pat Cleburne, CSA
Originally Posted by Colonel_Reb
Hitler's quote was made in reference to the group of people whose influence on Germany he vehemently opposed. Certainly "The Big Lie" technique is alive and very well today all over the world. Is there a government and media anywhere that isn't dominated by lies big and small?
Editor, The Nationalist Times, Voice of the Real America since 1985
Please let me have your thoughts on WJBryan. My impression is that he was one of the closest things to a real 19th-century national statesman. Apparently he had a problem with recurring globalist/imperialist sentiments but many good points. I personally agree that evolutionism is a lot of monkey business. This just in (thanks, Rod!):
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In a speech in Chicago in 1899, Bryan demolished the unjust US seizure of foreign territory:
"When the desire to steal becomes uncontrollable in an individual he is declared to be a kleptomaniac and is sent to an asylum; when the desire to grab land becomes uncontrollable in a nation we are told that the 'currents of destiny are flowing through the hearts of men' and the American people are entering upon a 'manifest mission.' Shame upon a logic which locks up the petty offender and enthrones grand larceny. Have the people returned to the worship of the Golden Calf? Have they made unto themselves a new commandment consistent with the spirit of conquest and the lust for empire? Is 'thou shalt not steal on a small scale' to be substituted for the law of Moses?" (Against the Beast, p. 112).</TD></TR></T></TABLE>
Morning, all --- I've just added to the Freedom Quotes collection at
http://www.anu.org/forum/forum_posts...09&PN=1&am p;am p;am p;TPN=1
............in a posting (#15 from the top of the page) that begins "Read this please and try to figure out when it came by email" -- and here's a good message that that material brought in on tangentially related by equally vital subjects. It's from a terrific young couple I met at a Patriot Network (dot info) meeting.
<DIV>Hey Nelson</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Stace and I liked meeting you.... Can you recommend a good book on Lincoln for me to check out? </DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Here's our address:</DIV>
<DIV>XXXXXXX</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Since we can't "jam" together anytime soon, here's my song Hey Soldier for you to learn for our first gig, soon to be scheduled.</DIV>
<DIV>
Hey soldier don’t you listen to the coward politician<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com
He played you for a fool when he promised to take care of you<O:P></O:P>
They tell you you’re a part of a body’s beating heart<O:P></O:P>
But your mind is what they need to make sure you play your part<O:P></O:P>
Hey soldier don’t you listen to the coward politician<O:P></O:P>
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Hey soldier please recall how the wind can make you fall<O:P></O:P>
That all men belong to God before ya aim and take your shot<O:P></O:P>
That the purpose of their war is so they can steal some more<O:P></O:P>
An empire of greed and dope is what you’re fighting for<O:P></O:P>
Hey soldier please recall how the wind can make you fall<O:P></O:P>
<O:P></O:P>
Hey soldier hear me holler about all our founding fathers<O:P></O:P>
They fought a revolution and then wrote a constitution <O:P></O:P>
Now wear the flag of this regime’s kinder gentler tyranny<O:P></O:P>
Not allowed to even pray and you think that we are free?<O:P></O:P>
Hey soldier hear me holler about all the founding fathers<O:P></O:P>
<O:P></O:P>
Hey soldier check your bible before you kill your rival<O:P></O:P>
Christian, Jew or atheist, you should not kill lest we forget<O:P></O:P>
Take a look around you can see that nothing’s sound<O:P></O:P>
If you refuse to fight there may be peace in every town<O:P></O:P>
Hey soldier check your bible before you kill your rival<O:P></O:P>
By Michael Glasgow Copyright 2003<O:P></O:P>
myreply to the above:
Morning, Mick --There are a number of good books on 'Honest Abe' and much online. A few ideas:
http://www.crownrights.com/caesar/index.htm
recent magnum opus on the subject -- incredibly, the whole thing is posted online!
http://www.lincolnmyth.com/
http://www.csa-dixie.com/copperheadchronicle/
Materials written or compiled by Al Benson, Jr., copperhead10@juno.com, who has NO Southern roots, while he still lived in Illinois and ran the Christian Liberty Satellite Schools.
http://www.pointsouth.com/c-shoppe.htm
many titles look good in their book list.
Here's a choice cut from my recent DIXIE DIARY newspaper feature (see if this magazine issue is still available -- if forget the exact date of it -- inquire SOUTH2@JUNO.COM):
January -- Southern Events (POB 2517, Selma) arrives, with a cover story that threatens to blow the Lincoln Memorial into the Reflecting Pool: "Lincoln's Civil War Against New York -- No `Draft Riot' -- Organized Resistance to Lincoln's Reign of Terror." Author John Chodes isn't kidding: Lincoln, he proves, actually fought an entire civil war against "the 6 states controlled by the Democratic Party": NY, PA, OH, IN, IL (!!!), and WI. "The Union Army was called upon to crush out their guerrilla war, insurrectionary acts, and full-scale military defiance. This opposition was provoked by Lincoln's attempt to insure loyalty through terror . . . " Throw out Gangs of New York, because York Wars is here in the cream-colored pages of this modest and obscure yet electrifying quarterly publication!
I commend you for saying the unsayable in this vein! Let's be in touch . . . Cheers (John 16:33), /\/
</DIV>Edited by: nelson
"There was no surrender at Appomattox, and no withdrawal from the field which committed our people and their children to a heritage of shame and dishonor. No cowardice on any battlefield could be as base and shameful as the silent acquiescence in the scheme which was teaching the children in their homes and schools that the commercial value of slavery was the cause of the war, that prisoners of war held in the South were starved and treated with a barbarous inhumanity, that Jefferson Davis and Robert E. Lee were traitors to their country and false to their oaths, that the young men who left everything to resist invasion, and climbed the slopes of Gettysburg and died willingly on a hundred fields were rebels against a righteous government."
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<DIV>The Reverend James Power Smith, last surviving member of Jackson's staff, 1907</DIV>
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Here's that good quote you've been hearing -- "We need to stop trying to be great and concentrate on being good" -- and many more on the same page.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/katz/katz18.html
The thought of H. L. Mencken is especially true now, "Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under."
"Everything has changed since 9/11" is a propaganda slogan that Orwell would appreciate. Thus nation building, which was wrong during the 2000 campaign, is now good policy.
The founders had the right idea, no alliances, no war, but trade with all. A smaller, humbler government overseas would lead to a precipitous drop in the number of terrorists.
My favorite cynic, George Bernard Shaw:
Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it.
He who confuses political liberty with freedom and political equality with similarity has never thought for five minutes about either.
A modern gentleman is necessarily the enemy of his country. Even in war he does not fight to defend it, but to prevent his power of preying on it from passing to a foreigner. Such combatants are patriots in the same sense as two dogs fighting for a bone are lovers of animals.
The greatest threat to freedom is not foreign governments. It is our own.
A Hamilton Federalist Papers 78
THE BILL OF RIGHTS --- Legislation Contrary to Constitution are null and void" "No legislative Act contrary to the Constitution can be valid. To deny this would be to affirm that the deputy is greater than his principal; that the servant is above the master; that the representatives of the people are superior to the people; that men, acting by virtue of powers may do not only what their powers do not authorize, but what they forbid. It is not to be supposed that the Constitution could intend to enable the representatives of the people to substitute their will to that of their constituents. A Constitution is, in fact, and must be regarded by judges as fundamental law. If there should happen to be an irreconcilable variance between the two, the Constitution is to be preferred to the statute."
(A.Hamilton, Federalist Papers #78 See also Warning v. The Mayor of
Savannah, 60 Georgia, P.93; First Trust Co. v. Smith, 277 SW 762, Marbury v.
Madison, 2 L Ed 60; and Am.Juris. 2d Constitutional Law, section 177-178)
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I realise Hamilton was a banker, but this quote still stands on its own, IMO. What we have in government today is we are governed (as Plato said) by our inferiors.
"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."
- Thomas Jefferson
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest for freedom, go home and leave us in peace. We seek not your council nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."
--- Samuel Adams
”You can always tell when a politician has spoken from the heart: He has to take it back the next day” -- Joseph Sobran
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