Does Modern Christianity Need A Rethink?

[Donald]

Jewess Ayn Rand (Alisa Rosenbaum) a political philosopher and writer once declared that fiction is a much more powerful weapon to sell ideas than non-fiction...I guess it's true cause modern Christians sure have bought into a few.


By accepting and propagating the Jewish 'chosen people' myth, coupled with their blind allegiance to anti-Christ Israel, gives credibility to the two greatest lies ever spread upon this earth...Tragically in the eyes of the rest of the world, this love affair with Israel and Jews makes Jesus Christ an accomplice not only in Israel's crimes against the Palestinian people in particular, but it also gives Christ's stamp of approval on World Jewry's soul-defiling and soul-destroying sins against humanity in general.


In my opinion Christianity must rethink their present 'Jew/Israel Uber Alles' theology...It is a sacrilege that this Christian is not sure can, or ever will be forgiven.

[Nelson]

Christianity is many things to many people—and unfortunately millions of ameriKan rubes adhere to a knockoff of it that's (with their support) wreaking worldwide havoc. These people don't need to rethink, they need to think—it would appear never to have happened to them before.


I maintain that the black letter of the Scriptures is pro-nationalist, pro-free enterprise, and otherwise the exact medicine the world needs today, especially the 99% of "Christian" pew-warmers that are militantly stupid and shallow


The rubes think "Izrul" is a fulfillment of prophecy. They're right, but need to focus their attention on the "synagogue of Satan" factor in the book of Revelation, not their spurious notions of an ingathering of Larry King and Joan Rivers types in Palestine in the "last days".


Ah, if ONLY these twirps would READ THEIR BIBLE without their Sunday School teacher looking over their shoulder or an Evie Tornquist tape playing in the background (Michael Card for the guys)! First book of Samuel, chapter eight:


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4 Then all the elders of Israel gathered themselves together, and came to Samuel unto Ramah,
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5 And said unto him, Behold, thou art old, and thy sons walk not in thy ways: now make us a king to judge us like all the nations.
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6 But the thing displeased Samuel, when they said, Give us a king to judge us. And Samuel prayed unto the LORD.
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7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them.
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8 According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt even unto this day, wherewith they have forsaken me, and served other gods, so do they also unto thee.
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9 Now therefore hearken unto their voice: howbeit yet protest solemnly unto them, and show them the manner of the king that shall reign over them.
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10 And Samuel told all the words of the LORD unto the people that asked of him a king.
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11 And he said, This will be the manner of the king that shall reign over you: He will take your sons, and appoint them for himself, for his chariots, and to be his horsemen; and some shall run before his chariots.
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12 And he will appoint him captains over thousands, and captains over fifties; and will set them to ear his ground, and to reap his harvest, and to make his instruments of war, and instruments of his chariots.
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13 And he will take your daughters to be confectionaries, and to be cooks, and to be bakers.
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14 And he will take your fields, and your vineyards, and your oliveyards, even the best of them, and give them to his servants.
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15 And he will take the tenth of your seed, and of your vineyards, and give to his officers, and to his servants.
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16 And he will take your menservants, and your maidservants, and your goodliest young men, and your asses, and put them to his work.
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17 He will take the tenth of your sheep: and ye shall be his servants.
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18 And ye shall cry out in that day because of your king which ye shall have chosen you; and the LORD will not hear you in that day..............








Edited by: Nelson

[Michael]

The Christian Zionist are a cult that without the support of Zionist probably would have disappeared long ago!

[Colonel_Reb]

I think the rethink is a must. I am tired of the know-nothing, weak-kneed "ministers" supposedly leading people these days. It is a shame and is doing much harm to Christianity.

[Michael]

I think the rethink is a must. I am tired of the know-nothing, weak-kneed "ministers" supposedly leading people these days. It is a shame and is doing much harm to Christianity.

Too many mainstream preachers have sold out for the proverbial 30 pieces of silver!

[Adolar]

Some interesting books:


"Fragments of a Faith Forgotten - A Contribution to the Study of Christian Origins" by G.R.S. Mead - covers in detail Gnostic-Christian philosophers and writings extant when the book was first published (1900).


"The Nag Hammadi Library" - New translation of the Gnostic scriptures, James M. Robinson, General Editor - available online:


http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/nhlalpha.html


A good general outline is "The Gnostic Gospels" by Elaine Pagels (1979).

[Aceriter]

Christianity has lost its way because it has gotten away
from the Book and replaced its message with a lot of touchy-feely love
stuff. Christian zionists should be asked one question:
Show me one verse in the New Testament that says Christians should
waste their time worrying about the real estate problems of the state
of Israel? </span>There aren't any! So why do they make this central to their ministry?











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[Nelson]

1. Jews took over the media.


2. Jews took over education.


3. Jews infiltrated Christian denominations, seminaries and pulpits.


http://christianactionforisrael.org/action/lovewill.html


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_M._Oesterreicher


Monsignor John Maria Oesterreicher (February 2, 1904 – April 18, 1993) was a Roman Catholic theologian and a leading advocate of Jewish-Catholic reconciliation. He was one of the architects of Nostra Aetate or "In Our Age," which was issued by the Second Vatican Council in 1965 and which repudiated anti-Semitism.


Oesterreicher was born a Jew in Stadt Liebau in Moravia (then part of Austria and now the Czech Republic). He was a convert to Catholicism who became a Roman Catholic priest in 1927. He was active as an anti-Nazi activist in the 1930s, and fled Austria at the time of the German Anschluss, or conquest of Austria, in 1938.


Based initially in Paris, he condemned the Nazis in weekly broadcasts and writings. He fled to the U.S. after the German invasion of France in 1940.


Oesterreicher founded the Institute of Judaeo-Christian Studies at Seton Hall University in 1953. He was appointed a Papal Chamberlain, with the title of monsignor, in 1961. In the 1960s, Oesterreicher was in a group of 15 priests who petitioned the Vatican to take up the issue of anti-Semitism................

[Colonel_Reb]

Christianity has lost its way because it has gotten away from the Book and replaced its message with a lot of touchy-feely love stuff. Christian zionists should be asked one question: Show me one verse in the New Testament that says Christians should waste their time worrying about the real estate problems of the state of Israel? There aren't any! So why do they make this central to their ministry?

Agreed 100%![img]smileys/smiley32.gif[/img]

[Tom Iron]

It's my humble opinion that Christian men must be outdoorsmen. Only by being in touch with our physical world can we hope to be Christians. Think about it. Our lord, Jesus was born outdoors under the stars. He walked everywhere he went. St. Thomas walked to India. St. Paul walked all over the Roman empire. We now live our lives indoors. How can a man today even think of being a Christian when he repudiates the world our Lord knew and lived in? Can't be done. All the wisdom of the world has come down to us from men who intimately knew the outdoors. What we have now in the place of wisdom is an illusion. Men cannnot live this way and hope to think of themselves as Christians.

Tom Iron...