Comparative holocaustology

**Nelson** · 10-12-2007, 03:27 AM

News story linked at Wiki homepage just now:

Turkey recalls its ambassador to the United States, after the U.S. House Committee on Foreign Affairs passes a resolution condemning the Armenian Genocide in the Ottoman Empire.

It's sure not to please "certain people"!

**Nelson3** · 03-20-2009, 03:56 AM

300 more of gewish communism's casualties discovered in mass grave -- from all evidences, gassed for their politics and for wanting to leave the portion of the Worker's Paradise called Yugoslavia.

All last-ditch defenses are gone. The chattering classes can't even claim "this is what happens in a war" or "look, they were enemy combatants" -- because the war was already over.

Gassed to death: 300 victims of Yugoslavia's communist regime found in mass grave
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worl...cle-1160708/30 0-victims-Yugoslavias-communist-regime-mass-grave.html

Yes, by all means, let's talk gas chamber, holocaust, ethnic cleansing, genocide -- gews!

...............Wait -- there's more from IHR this evening. Introducing one of the most purely appalling buzzconcepts yet: aristocide.

Dysgenics of a Communist Killing Field: The Croatian Bleiburg

Tom Sunic -- The Occidental Observer

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**Nelson3** · 04-04-2009, 04:09 PM

A ton more good stuff at IHR today. If the real so-called holocausts will please stand up, the fake one won't have a chance.
 Cambodia Court Hears Khmer Rouge Testimony[/b] 
BBC News

Court officials have finally started to outline the case against a
former Khmer Rouge leader in Cambodia. After months of pre-trial
hearings, the former prison chief known as Comrade Duch listened while
a court official read out the charges against him. He is accused of
crimes against humanity, torture and premeditated murder for his
alleged role in the deaths of more than 10,000 people. The Khmer Rouge
killed up to two million people in less than four years..........



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7971231.stm

Also: 

Purification Rites: Hitler is Revered by Many in India

Pankaj Mishra -- The National (UAE)

One in Twenty German Teens a Member of Neo-Nazi Group

Die Welt (Germany)

Where We Go Now: Iranian Response to Obama’s Address

Ali Akbar Javanfekr (Iran)

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**Nelson3** · 04-10-2009, 03:09 PM

This is one of the most important "holocaust" stories ever, which is why it won't be heard on Oprah. Don, I hope you'll use in the Times -- would be happy to write a preface. It whelms the big-H Holocaust© racket, the glorious Allies racket, the Greatest Generation© racket and the communist expediency racket (the notion that it was inevitable or understandable that Eastern Europe go socialist after centuries of aristocratic tyranny). It further documents that shows the Good War, World War Jew, to be nothing but a jamboree of genocide on white Christians.

Ever heard of Katyn, world? It was, like every communist outrage that gets exposed, merely one of many. Ever heard of Eisenhower's slow murder of a million German POWs after WW2 by starvation, dehydration and exposure? What do you know, there were "dozens" of such slaughters after the hostilities were concluded (Bacque's Other Losses book).

Speaking of the hidden multiplicity of communist atrocities, the Wiki article on Katyn (1) divulges that A number of earlier mass graves of victims of the Soviet system have
also been found there, as Katyn Forest had long been used as an
execution site for Soviet citizens -- and provides a "See also" link, List of Polish Martyrdom sites .

WW II winners filled dozens of mass graves Posted on : 2009-04-08 | Author : DPA News Category : Europe Zagreb - Thousands of German and Croat soldiers captured in the final days of the Second World War were coldly murdered and buried in mass graves found in western Croatia, human rights activists said Wednesday in Zagreb, demanding that authorities investigate. The site at Harmica, 50 kilometres north-west of Zagreb, holds the bodies of 4,500 soldiers, including 450 German army officers, executed by the communist partisans, Ivan Zvonimir Cicak of the Croatian Helsinki Committee told a press conference. The officers were buried in a separate grave, presumably because they were separated from the soldiers and executed last. The victims were troops of the 392 Infantry Division, set up by the German command in Croatia in August 1943 and placed under the leadership of Lt. General Hans Mickl. The division was composed of Croats and the "Volksdeutsche," members of the German community in Yugoslavia, with officers being from the German army, the Wehrmacht. The unit was colloquially called "Blue Division" after the grey-blue colour of its uniform. The soldiers buried at Harmica were captured in late April 1945 by illegal partisans under command of Josip Broz Tito, who later became the lifelong president of Yugoslavia. Cicak said his organization is currently collecting evidence on nine mass graves in northwestern Croatia from the Second World War, three of them located and six still unfound. Along with German and Croat troops, the graves are believed to hold "many civilians," he said. One of the recently uncovered graves, exposed during construction work on a river embankment near Cakovec, northwest of Zagreb, is believed to hold 1,500 Croat soldiers killed in June 1945. Little work was however done on it, as no money for an investigation was available. During World War II, Croatia was nominally an independent state, but was in effect run by Berlin and implemented Nazi laws. It even ran an extermination camp for Jews and enemies of the regime at Jasenovac, 100 kilometres east of Zagreb. The rest of the then Yugoslav Kingdom was dismembered and governed by various occupational forces from the German World War II bloc, like Italy, Hungary and Bulgaria. After claiming victory in Yugoslavia, Tito's Partisan force took brutal „revenge” not only on German soldiers and the large German minority living mostly in northern Croatia and Serbia, but also on local members of wartime authorities. Following the war, the new authorities brought ethnic Germans to concentration camps and eventually, after years, drove the survivors out. There were even death camps for children of the German community. In these processes, up to 80% of these persons were brutally killed or lost their live in the Tito camps. In the end, only a few thousand, out of several hundred thousands of the ethnic Germans living in Yugoslavia for centuries, remained. The smaller Italian minority in Croatia suffered a similar fate, which remains a sore issue in Zagreb's relations with Rome to the present day. Croatian President Stjepan Mesic said mass graves must be explored, but warned against "overblowing. "The criminals responsible for the dead in those graves should be processed and punished," he told the online edition of the Jutarnji List daily. "But any exaggeration ... is harmful to Croatian people. But mass executions of people from the losing side in Second World War were not limited to Croatia - last month a grave with hundreds of mummified corpses, also victims of the Partisans, was found in an abandoned mine in Slovenia. Speaking recently in the wake of that discovery, Croatian Interior Minister Tomislav Karamarko estimated the number of mass graves - any with five or more bodies - at 600 in Slovenia, 840 in Croatia, 90 in Bosnia and "who knows how many more" strewn across the entire region. "Many knew about these crimes in the wake of the World War, but had to keep silent under a totalitarian regime," Cicak told the German Press Agency dpa. "It is that (much) more outraging when somebody today says how we should not investigate each and every crime of Partisans." Print Source : http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/s...,ww-ii-winners -also-filled-mass-graves--feature.html © 2009 earthtimes.org. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

**Michael** · 06-26-2009, 10:24 PM

An article entitled "The genocide Britain hushed up: A new film tells the terrible story of Stalin's own Final Solution - and Churchill's shameful complicity"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...2/The-genocide -Britain-hushed-A-new-film-tells-terrible-story-Stalins-Fina l-Solution--Churchills-shameful-complicity.html

**Michael** · 03-05-2010, 10:30 PM

An article entitled "House Foreign Affairs Committee votes 23 to 22 to acknowledge Christian Holocaust in Turkey."

The House Foreign Affairs Committee voted 23 to 22 to acknowledge the mass murder of Christians, mostly ethnic Armenians, by the Turks early in the 20th century. Turkey officially denies that they committed genocide against Christians Armenians, Greeks, and others.

The ADL has opposed the recognition of the Ukrainian Holocaust and the Christian Holocaust in Turkey as acts of "genocide." The actions taken by the ADL, which justifies it’s own existence with the Jewish Holocaust, could not be any more sinister and hypocritical.

The ADL, which critics routinely dub an "unregistered foreign lobby for Israel," defends Turkey because of their military alliance with Israel. Turkey is Israel’s only Muslim military ally and their only regional military ally. However in recent years, this relationship has been strained and may not continue for much longer.

It is also true that historically Sephardi Jews have thrived in Turkey, with many taking refuge in Turkey after their expulsion from Spain in 1492. Historically manly Jews have even held leadership positions in Turkey. However, most American Jews are Ashkenazim Jews, not Sephardi. Also, relations between Turkish Jews and their neighbors have been sour since the 1948 Arab-Israeli war. With a large portion of the Jewish population in Turkey having know emigrated. Though many Jews remember Turkey as the leading "Jewish safe haven" for 456 years where Jews were a thriving merchant class.

The reasons that the ADL has opposed recognition of the mass killing of Christian Ukrainians by the Soviets as "genocide," is even more mysterious. It may stem from the open secret that Lazar Kaganovich is an ethnic Jew. Kaganovich is called the "architect of the Ukrainian Holomodore." In which access to and from large areas of the Ukraine were blocked and vast numbers deliberately starved to death. Kaganovich’s Jewish ethnicity almost never appears in print.

http://cofcc.org/2010/03/house-forei...-committee-vot es-23-to-22-to-acknowledge-christian-holocaust-in-turkey/

**Michael** · 03-06-2010, 05:29 PM

An article entitled "Hillary Clinton denies the Holocaust. Disgusting display by Obama administration."

Hillary Clinton, in an effort to pander to the Turkish government, denied the holocaust of Armenian and Greek Christians that occurred at the end of the Ottoman Empire.

Yesterday a the House Foreign Affairs Committee voted 23 to 22 to recognize the Christian Holocaust in Turkey as "genocide."

Today the BBC reports that Hillary Clinton is denying that the mass slaughter constitutes genocide and has called on the House to scuttle the resolution. Hillary also stated that the "Obama administration" opposes recognizing the slaughter as "genocide" and will seek to prevent a full vote on the House floor.

During the presidential election campaign, Obama promised to recognize the mass killings as "genocide." Obama attacked the Bush administration for not supporting the resolution during his administration. If Hillary’s comments represent the official position of the Obama administration then he has completely reneged on his campaign promise. Which would be no surprise since he has completely reneged on every other promise. It would be far more shocking if Obama actually kept a campaign promise!

The main groups who have lobbied against the resolution are the ADL, AIPAC, and the Turkish diplomatic team.

http://cofcc.org/2010/03/hillary-cli...s-the-holocaus t-disgusting-display-by-obama-administration/

**DixieDestroyer** · 03-07-2010, 04:41 AM

Pandering the Turks indeed...but that pales in comparison to the outright bondage to the Zionists!

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1154423.html

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**Michael** · 03-07-2010, 04:25 PM

I have seen post by Armenians at other forums that they believe that Jews high up in the Ottoman Empire were the instigators of the crimes against humanity against the Armenians, and looking at the article it states

Jews have even held leadership positions in Turkey

which adds a whole new dimension to why the Jews want what happened forgotten.

**Nelson3** · 01-04-2011, 05:14 AM

THIS is rich. The gews ain't gonna like it!

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James F. Cavanaugh - Clann Chief Herald


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There are a great many K/Cavanaughs in North America
who trace their ancestry back to a Charles Cavanaugh, who arrived in
Virginia, with a brother or cousin named Philemon Cavanagh (Felim or
Phelim), on or about 1700. Their descendants most often spell their
name with a C, although a variety of both C and K spellings are
found, even within the same immediate family. They were originally
concentrated in the Southeastern United States, particularly
Virginia, North Carolina and Georgia, but now spread to everywhere.
Although long standing family traditions trace Charles and Philemon
of 1700 arrival back to Colonel Charles Cavanaugh of Carrickduff and
Clonmullen, (the son of Sir Morgan Cavanagh, the son of Donnal
Spanaigh Cavanagh), a recorded link still evades researchers.
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plantation
owner beat an Irish slave to death, the
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birth of a Charles Cavanaugh, son of Charles Cavanaugh, was
registered there in January 1679. At the same time, another Cavanagh
was registered as inbound on a ship to Barbados from Liverpool. And
further complicating the entry is the same registry records the death
of a Charles Cavanaugh, son of Charles at the same time. So the
questions: was the dead Charles the new born baby; or perhaps the
father of the baby; or maybe the inbound Cavanagh who may have died
on the trip to Barbados, with his death recorded upon arrival; or
another Charles; or….?

These questions are still unanswered, but a more
intriguing question is what were the Cavanaughs doing in Barbados in
the first place? The answer takes us down a revolting path wandering
through one of the most insensitive and savage episodes in history,
where the greed and avarice of the English monarchy systematically
planned the genocide of the Irish, for commercial profit, and
executed a continuing campaign to destroy all traces of Irish social,
cultural and religious being. As the topic was politically sensitive,
little has been written about this attempted genocide of the Irish,
and what has been written has been camouflaged because it is an ugly
and painfully brutal story. But the story should be told.
Transportation and Banishment
If Queen Elizabeth I had lived in the 20th Century.
she would have been viewed with the same horror as Hitler and Stalin.
Her policy of Irish genocide was pursued with such evil zest it
boggles the mind of modern men. But Elizabeth was only setting the
stage for the even more savage program that was to follow her,
directed specifically to exterminate the Irish. James II and Charles
I continued Elizabeth’s campaign, but Cromwell almost perfected it.
Few people in modern so-called “civilized history” can match the
horrors of Cromwell in Ireland. It is amazing what one man can do to
his fellow man under the banner that God sanctions his actions!
The reign of Elizabeth I, English privateers
captured 300 African Negroes, sold them as slaves, and initiated the
English slave trade. Slavery was, of course, an old established
commerce dating back into earliest history. Julius Caesar brought
over a million slaves from defeated armies back to Rome. By the 16th
century, the Arabs were the most active, generally capturing native
peoples, not just Africans, marching them to a seaport and selling
them to ship owners. Dutch, Portuguese and Spanish ships were
originally the most active, supplying slaves to the Spanish colonies
in America. It was not a big business in the beginning, but a very
profitable one, and ship owners were primarily interested only in
profits. The morality of selling human beings was never a factor to
them.
After the Battle of Kinsale at the beginning of the
17th century, the English were faced with a problem of some 30,000
military prisoners, which they solved by creating an official policy
of banishment. Other Irish leaders had voluntarily exiled to the
continent, in fact, the Battle of Kinsale marked the beginning of the
so-called “Wild Geese”, those Irish banished from their homeland.
Banishment, however, did not solve the problem entirely, so James II
encouraged selling the Irish as slaves to planters and settlers in
the New World colonies. The first Irish slaves were sold to a
settlement on the Amazon River In South America in 1612. It would
probably be more accurate to say that the first “recorded” sale
of Irish slaves was in 1612, because the English, who were noted for
their meticulous record keeping, simply did not keep track of things
Irish, whether it be goods or people, unless such was being shipped
to England. The disappearance of a few hundred or a few thousand
Irish was not a cause for alarm, but rather for rejoicing. Who cared
what their names were anyway, they were gone.
Almost as soon as settlers landed in America,
English privateers showed up with a good load of slaves to sell. The
first load of African slaves brought to Virginia arrived at Jamestown
in 1619. English shippers, with royal encouragement, partnered with
the Dutch to try and corner the slave market to the exclusion of the
Spanish and Portuguese. The demand was greatest in the Spanish
occupied areas of Central and South America, but the settlement of
North America moved steadily ahead, and the demand for slave labour
grew.
The Proclamation of 1625 ordered that Irish
political prisoners be transported overseas and sold as laborers to
English planters, who were settling the islands of the West Indies,
officially establishing a policy that was to continue for two
centuries. In 1629 a large group of Irish men and women were sent to
Guiana, and by 1632, Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and
Montserrat in the West Indies. By 1637 a census showed that 69% of
the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves, which records
show was a cause of concern to the English planters. But there were
not enough political prisoners to supply the demand, so every petty
infraction carried a sentence of transporting, and slaver gangs
combed the country sides to kidnap enough people to fill out their
quotas.
Although African Negroes were better suited to work
in the semi-tropical climates of the Caribbean, they had to be
purchased, while the Irish were free for the catching, so to speak.
It is not surprising that Ireland became the biggest source of
livestock for the English slave trade.
The Confederation War broke out in Kilkenny in 1641,
as the Irish attempted to throw out the English yet again, something
that seem to happen at least once every generation. Sir Morgan
Cavanaugh of Clonmullen, one of the leaders, was killed during a
battle in 1646, and his two sons, Daniel and Charles (later Colonel
Charles) continued with the struggle until the uprising was crushed
by Cromwell in 1649. It is recorded that Daniel and other Carlow
Kavanaghs exiled themselves to Spain, where their descendants are
still found today, concentrated in the northwestern corner of that
country. Young Charles, who married Mary Kavanagh, daughter of Brian
Kavanagh of Borris, was either exiled to Nantes, France, or
transported to Barbados… or both. Although we haven’t found a
record of him in a military life in France, it is known that the
crown of Leinster and other regal paraphernalia associated with the
Kingship of Leinster was brought to France, where it was on display
in Bordeaux, just south of Nantes, until the French Revolution in
1794. As Daniel and Charles were the heirs to the Leinster kingship,
one of them undoubtedly brought these royal artifacts to Bordeaux.
In the 12 year period during and following the
Confederation revolt, from 1641 to 1652, over 550,000 Irish were
killed by the English and 300,000 were sold as slaves, as the Irish
population of Ireland fell from 1,466,000 to 616,000. Banished
soldiers were not allowed to take their wives and children with them,
and naturally, the same for those sold as slaves. The result was a
growing population of homeless women and children, who being a public
nuisance, were likewise rounded up and sold. But the worse was yet to
come.
In 1649, Cromwell landed in Ireland and attacked
Drogheda, slaughtering some 30,000 Irish living in the city. Cromwell
reported: “I do not think 30 of their whole number escaped with
their lives. Those that did are in safe custody in the Barbados.” A
few months later, in 1650, 25,000 Irish were sold to planters in St.
Kitt. During the 1650s decade of Cromwell’s Reign of Terror, over
100,000 Irish children, generally from 10 to 14 years old, were taken
from Catholic parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia
and New England. In fact, more Irish were sold as slaves to the
American colonies and plantations from 1651 to 1660 than the total
existing “free” population of the Americas!
But all did not go smoothly with Cromwell’s
extermination plan, as Irish slaves revolted in Barbados in 1649.
They were hanged, drawn and quartered and their heads were put on
pikes, prominently displayed around Bridgetown as a warning to
others. Cromwell then fought two quick wars against the Dutch in
1651, and thereafter monopolized the slave trade. Four years later he
seized Jamaica from Spain, which then became the center of the
English slave trade in the Caribbean.

On 14 August 1652, Cromwell began his Ethnic
Cleansing of Ireland, ordering that the Irish were to be transported
overseas, starting with 12,000 Irish prisoners sold to Barbados. The
infamous “Connaught or Hell” proclamation was issued on 1 May
1654, where all Irish were ordered to be removed from their lands and
relocated west of the Shannon or be transported to the West Indies.
Those who have been to County Clare, a land of barren rock will
understand what an impossible position such an order placed the
Irish. A local sheep owner claimed that Clare had the tallest sheep
in the world, standing some 7 feet at the withers, because in order
to live, there was so little food, they had to graze at 40 miles per
hour. With no place to go and stay alive, the Irish were slow to
respond. This was an embarrassing problem as Cromwell had financed
his Irish expeditions through business investors, who were promised
Irish estates as dividends, and his soldiers were promised freehold
land in exchange for their services. To speed up the relocation
process, a reinforcing law was passed on 26 June 1657 stating: “Those
who fail to transplant themselves into Connaught or Co. Clare within
six months… Shall be attained of high treason… are to be sent
into America or some other parts beyond the seas… those banished
who return are to suffer the pains of death as felons by virtue of
this act, without benefit of Clergy.”

Although it was not a crime to kill any Irish, and
soldiers were encouraged to do so, the slave trade proved too
profitable to kill off the source of the product. Privateers and
chartered shippers sent gangs out with quotas to fill, and in their
zest as they scoured the countryside, they inadvertently kidnapped a
number of English too. On March 25, 1659, a petition of 72 Englishmen
was received in London, claiming they were illegally “now in
slavery in the Barbados”' . The petition also claimed that
"7,000-8,000 Scots taken prisoner at the battle of Worcester in
1651 were sold to the British plantations in the New World,” and
that “200 Frenchmen had been kidnapped, concealed and sold in
Barbados for 900 pounds of cotton each."
Subsequently some 52,000 Irish, mostly women and
sturdy boys and girls, were sold to Barbados and Virginia alone.
Another 30,000 Irish men and women were taken prisoners and ordered
transported and sold as slaves. In 1656, Cromwell’s Council of
State ordered that 1000 Irish girls and 1000 Irish boys be rounded up
and taken to Jamaica to be sold as slaves to English planters. As
horrendous as these numbers sound, it only reflects a small part of
the evil program, as most of the slaving activity was not recorded.
There were no tears shed amongst the Irish when Cromwell died in
1660.
The Irish welcomed the restoration of the monarchy,
with Charles II duly crowned, but it was a hollow expectation. After
reviewing the profitability of the slave trade, Charles II chartered
the Company of Royal Adventurers in 1662, which later became the
Royal African Company. The Royal Family, including Charles II, the
Queen Dowager and the Duke of York, then contracted to supply at
least 3000 slaves annually to their chartered company. They far
exceeded their quotas.

There are records of Irish sold as slaves in 1664 to
the French on St. Bartholomew, and English ships which made a stop in
Ireland en route to the Americas, typically had a cargo of Irish to
sell on into the 18th century. Few people today realize that from
1600 to 1699, far more Irish were sold as slaves than Africans.
Slaves or Indentured Servants
There has been a lot of whitewashing of the Irish
slave trade, partly by not mentioning it, and partly by labelling
slaves as indentured servants. There were indeed indentureds,
including English, French, Spanish and even a few Irish. But there is
a great difference between the two. Indentures bind two or more
parties in mutual obligations. Servant indentures were agreements
between an individual and a shipper in which the individual agreed to
sell his services for a period of time in exchange for passage, and
during his service, he would receive proper housing, food, clothing,
and usually a piece of land at the end of the term of service. It is
believed that some of the Irish that went to the Amazon settlement
after the Battle of Kinsale and up to 1612 were exiled military who
went voluntarily, probably as indentureds to Spanish or Portuguese
shippers.
However, from 1625 onward the Irish were sold, pure
and simple as slaves. There were no indenture agreements, no
protection, no choice. They were captured and originally turned over
to shippers to be sold for their profit. Because the profits were so
great, generally 900 pounds of cotton for a slave, the Irish slave
trade became an industry in which everyone involved (except the
Irish) had a share of the profits.
Treatment
Although the Africans and Irish were housed together
and were the property of the planter owners, the Africans received
much better treatment, food and housing. In the British West Indies
the planters routinely tortured white slaves for any infraction.
Owners would hang Irish slaves by their hands and set their hands or
feet afire as a means of punishment. To end this barbarity, Colonel
William Brayne wrote to English authorities in 1656 urging the
importation of Negro slaves on the grounds that, "as the
planters would have to pay much more for them, they would have an
interest in preserving their lives, which was wanting in the case of
(Irish)...." many of whom, he charged, were killed by overwork
and cruel treatment. African Negroes cost generally about 20 to 50
pounds Sterling, compared to 900 pounds of cotton (about 5 pounds
Sterling) for an Irish. They were also more durable in the hot
climate, and caused fewer problems. The biggest bonus with the
Africans though, was they were NOT Catholic, and any heathen pagan
was better than an Irish Papist. Irish prisoners were commonly
sentenced to a term of service, so theoretically they would
eventually be free. In practice, many of the slavers sold the Irish
on the same terms as prisoners for servitude of 7 to 10 years.
There was no racial consideration or discrimination,
you were either a freeman or a slave, but there was aggressive
religious discrimination, with the Pope considered by all English
Protestants to be the enemy of God and civilization, and all
Catholics heathens and hated. Irish Catholics were not considered to
be Christians. On the other hand, the Irish were literate, usually
more so than the plantation owners, and thus were used as house
servants, account keepers, scribes and teachers. But any infraction
was dealt with the same severity, whether African or Irish, field
worker or domestic servant. Floggings were common, and if a planter
beat an Irish slave to death, it was not a crime, only a financial
loss, and a lesser loss than killing a more expensive African.
Parliament passed the Act to Regulate Slaves on British Plantations
in 1667, designating authorized punishments to include whippings and
brandings for slave offenses against a Christian. Irish Catholics
were not considered Christians, even if they were freemen.
The planters quickly began breeding the comely Irish
women, not just because they were attractive, but because it was
profitable,,, as well as pleasurable. Children of slaves were
themselves slaves, and although an Irish woman may become free, her
children were not. Naturally, most Irish mothers remained with their
children after earning their freedom. Planters then began to breed
Irish women with African men to produce more slaves who had lighter
skin and brought a higher price. The practice became so widespread
that in 1681, legislation was passed “forbidding the practice of
mating Irish slave women to African slave men for the purpose of
producing slaves for sale.” This legislation was not the result of
any moral or racial consideration, but rather because the practice
was interfering with the profits of the Royal African Company! It is
interesting to note that from 1680 to 1688, the Royal African Company
sent 249 shiploads of slaves to the Indies and American Colonies,
with a cargo of 60,000 Irish and Africans. More than 14,000 died
during passage.
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shipped
out as slaves, not one is known
to have returned.
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James in 1691, the Irish slave trade had an overloaded inventory, and
the slavers were making great profits. The Spanish slavers were a
competition nuisance, so in 1713, the Treaty of Assiento was signed
in which Spain granted England exclusive rights to the slave trade,
and England agreed to supply Spanish colonies 4800 slaves a year for
30 years. England shipped tens of thousands of Irish prisoners after
the 1798 Irish Rebellion to be sold as slaves in the Colonies and
Australia.

Curiously, of all the Irish shipped out as slaves,
not one is known to have returned to Ireland to tell their tales.
Many, if not most, died on the ships transporting them or from
overwork and abusive treatment on the plantations. The Irish that did
obtain their freedom, frequently emigrated on to the American
mainland, while others moved to adjoining islands. On Montserrat,
seven of every 10 whites were Irish. Comparable 1678 census figures
for the other Leeward Islands were: 26 per cent Irish on Antigua; 22
per cent on Nevis; and 10 per cent on St Christopher. Although 21,700
Irish slaves were purchased by Barbados planters from 1641 to 1649,
there never seemed to have been more than about 8 to 10 thousand
surviving at any one time. What happened to them? Well, the pages of
the telephone directories on the West Indies islands are filled with
Irish names, but virtually none of these “black Irish” know
anything about their ancestors or their history. On the other hand,
many West Indies natives spoke Gaelic right up until recent years.
They know they are strong survivors who descended from black white
slaves, but only in the last few years have any of them taken an
interest in their heritage.
There were horrendous abuses by the slavers, both to
Africans and Irish. The records show that the British ship Zong was
delayed by storms, and as their food was running low, they decided to
dump 132 slaves overboard to drownso the crew would have plenty to
eat. If the slaves died due to “accident”, the loss was covered
by insurance, but not if they starved to death. Another British ship,
the Hercules averaged a 37% death rate on passages. The Atlas II
landed with 65 of the 181 slaves found dead in their chains. But that
is another story.

The economics of slavery permeated all levels of
English life. When the Bishop of Exeter learned that there was a
movement afoot to ban the slave trade, he reluctantly agreed to sell
his 655 slaves, provided he was properly compensated for the loss.
Finally, in 1839, a bill was passed in England forbidding the slave
trade, bringing an end to Irish misery.
An end to Irish misery? Well, perhaps just a pause.
During the following decade thousands of tons of butter, grain and
beef were shipped from Ireland as over 2 million Irish starved to
death in the great famine, and a great many others went to America
and Australia. The population of Ireland fell from over 9 million to
bottom out at less than 3 million. Another chapter, another time,
another method…. same people, same results.
Caomhánach's in Barbados

Did the Caomhánach's in Barbados arrive there
as slaves? Yes, definitely. Which Caomhánach's is hard to
pinpoint. The registry at St. Michaels Parish contains the birth and
death of a Charles Cavanagh, son of Charles, which suggests that they
were freemen, as records were not kept for slaves. There is a record
of another Cavanagh living on a small allotment acreage in Barbados,
ironically with a given name of Oliver. (Someone had a sadistic sense
of humour.) Oliver Cavanagh had to be a freed slave or descended from
one, and because his parents are not noted, they had to be slaves.
There are records in Ireland of a number of petitions filed over a
number of years after Cromwell by Mary Cavanagh, wife of Col.
Charles, seeking his pardon and return of lands, indicating Charles
was transported. Recently, Jimmy Kavanagh of Dublin has found a
registry containing over a dozen Kavanaghs in Haiti. Perhaps someday,
we will be able to sort this out, but it is doubtful.

By sheer coincidence, this was in same pile of links -- mentioning a modern hero named Kavanagh!

http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bas...12/russell_pea rce_john_kavanagh_a.php

<h1 style="color: rgb(102, 0, 0);" id="story_line">Commemoration, minus the myths</h1>
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**Nelson3** · 02-23-2011, 06:12 PM

Gasp.......... "Cambodian Holocaust"?

" The Dith Pran Holocaust Awareness Project"?

Are such semitically-incorrect phrases allowed out in public?!?!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dith_Pran

BTW, have any of y'ahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Killing_Fields_%28film%2 9ll seen the movie The Killing Fields? Had heard it was pro-commie, but it sounds pretty real-world here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kil...lds_%28film%29

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**Nelson4** · 09-28-2012, 03:02 AM

STUB. just left pithy stuff on this topic here:

http://www.anu.org/forums/threads/16...profile-dismal

**Nelson4** · 12-12-2012, 02:37 PM

Stupid, stupid, stupid, EVIL newspaper scribblers beat the Holocaust® smear/analogy TO DEATH. How much more iterations is it good for? Medecines and library books expire, how about atrocity lies?

http://webabuser.blogspot.com/2012/1...rosphere.tk%29
What is wrong about the euro, and what is not

**Nelson4** · 12-14-2012, 08:26 PM

Woo hoo, the Nips' holocaust of the Chinks! Wait till you SEE the film of the old war criminal approaching the very Auschwitzesque building where he sickened people to death via the LARGEST GERM WARFARE RESEARCH PROJECT in history -- Warning, shocking scenes and descriptions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...yDOXGmtro&NR=1

"Thousands of prisoners were deliberately infected with disease. The doctors took careful notes. this was, after all, a scientific exercise. After the victims became sick, they were cut open while they were still alive -- the doctors wanted to chart the course of the infection. Wow, I guess there are Japanese gews after all? I'll call my Congresscritter immediately and urge they build another $150 million museum on the capitol mall in memory of this.... oh, and another over Cambodia.

Wow, don't you just love US: "The reason they were not tried was that the information and experience gained in the studies of the biological warfare was of a great value for the United States biological weapons development program."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

Incredibly enough, the show says WW2 is simply not mentioned in Japanese schools.

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