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<DIV>Folks, I know money is tight. But unless ObamaCare gets shot down--pronto!--it's going to get a hell of a lot tighter in the not-distant future.</DIV>
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<DIV>Here is an opportunity for you to join the majority of Americans who already have told Obama, Pelosi and Reed, "We DON’T WANT your crummy health-care plan ... get your grubby little fingers out of our wallets and purses."</DIV>
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<DIV>My budget is limited. However, I just bought $15 worth of faxes to be sent to Congress as my contribution to the cause for freedom of choice.</DIV>
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<DIV>If you scroll down several lines, you will find a link that explains the details.</DIV>
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From the Desk of:
Steve Elliott, Grassfire Nation
ObamaCare vote in the House on March 18 ... final
Senate vote on March 26 ... but that plan hinges on
one thing. See below.Steve
Today, President Obama launched his last-minute campaign-style
push to get enough partisan phone calls and faxes flooding
Capitol Hill.
Here's what the President said:
"We need to see where people stand. And we need all
of you to help us win that vote. So I need you to
knock on doors. Talk to your neighbors. Pick up the
phone... [W]e need you to make your voices heard all
the way in Washington, D.C."
That means President Obama's strategy depends on one thing ...
Our SILENCE!
Obama knows public opinion is against him (the polls
consistently show that a majority of Americans oppose
ObamaCare). If a representative sampling of Americans
contacted members of Congress, then most phone calls,
faxes and emails would OPPOSE ObamaCare and their
fast-track timeline would be derailed.
So he is counting on our silence while resorting to
campaign-style efforts to rally his troops -- the far
left ideologues from his presidential run and groups
like MoveOn.
As I shared with you a few days ago, that strategy
appears to be working. Here's what a trusted contact
on Capitol Hill reported:
"We just left [a member of Congress'] office and
while we were waiting, their phones were going
crazy demanding... support for health care...
Get everyone you can to call or fax or email."
This contact also said the odds of ObamaCare passing have
risen dramatically in the past week. And now the targeted
House vote is just 10 days away.
+ + Two ways to let your voice be heard
#1 -- Send faxes right now
I know many in the Grassfire Nation have stepped forward
and sent many, many faxes. If you can send faxes again,
please consider doing so.
If you have never sent faxes to your members of Congress,
NOW IS THE TIME.
You can use our FaxFire system to send this message
right now to your two Senators, your Rep AND the
President -- and MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD! Go here
to schedule your faxes:
http://<a href="http://www.grassfire...=2</a> 3509033
(As always, we provide all the information for you to
send your own faxes if you prefer. Just click the
above link.)
#2 -- Call your Senators and Representative
Again, it appears the President's grassroots strategy is
working. If you want your voice to be heard, please call...
Sen. McCain 202-224-2235
Sen. Kyl 202-224-4521
Rep. Shadegg 202-225-3361
Again, the President's strategy centers on our fatigue --
that you and I will be just sick and tired of fighting this
battle so he can make Congress think that public opinion
has turned. His plan hinges on our silence.
Less than 10 days...
Steve Elliott
Grassfire Nation
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In defiance of the media's cry of hosannas toward Obama's self declared political win after the CBO health care legislation scoring putting the price tag just under $1 trillion, South Boston Representative Steve Lynch (D) said he will vote no on the legislation. Warren, I can see a 216-215 vote passing the bill, but it can still flip.
As to paying for third party faxes, Warren you know my feelings on them. I don't participate in them.
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Garden State, your approach is fine. We all differ. Whatever works for you is right for you. What is imperative is that we all participate in the process. In the event Obummer care passes, I believe it might become necessary for us to exercise our 2nd Amendment rights. We cannot allow the United States to be destroyed at the hands of Marxist Zionists and their poodles. AIPAC Policy Conference 2010 ought to be a real eye-opener. I suggest you andall Forum members monitor this political orgy (it gets underway this weekend) at: www.aipac.org Edited by: Wicked Warren
An article entitled "Will Democrats Destroy the Economy Today?"
http://www.whitecivilrights.com/?p=3358Obama is doing an “end run” around the usual procedure for passing a bill. Normally the Senate and House are supposed to vote on the same bill. The health care bill passed by the Senate is nothing like the bill the House is voting on. Obama is using some obscure loophole (of dubious legality) to try to pass a bill that could wreck the economy.
Tens of millions of Americans have been e-mailing and calling their Congressmen to tell them to vote “NO!!!” but once again, the will of the people apparently means nothing.
If a health care bill passes, it will force people to buy health care insurance, much like people are forced to buy (highly overpriced) car insurance with no effective system to make sure the public is not being price-gouged. The US economy is 70 percent dependent on consumer spending. If tens of millions of Americans are forced to pay insurance companies $1000/month (or more) for Obama health care, that will wipe out a huge percentage of consumer spending and the already shaky economy will collapse completely.
What the so called "Health care" bill is all about is making the rich richer and the Middle and Working classes poorer. The Rich liberals in the insurance industry will get richer while from high price and often worthless insurance policies while much of the Middle and working class will be force to pay a fee (tax) to the government because they can't afford to pay the absorbent rates to make Rich liberals richer. This tax will likely be one of the most regressive in history and will be followed by many other similar ones if allowed to stand.
The newly passed Obama-care sure ups the ante for America's opposition folks.
The Ron Paulites, the American Nationalists, the Paleo-conservatives, the Tea Party folks, The White Racialists ... all are in the same boat now. Loosely one can call this collection "We", and We'd better get our schidt together real soon.
It wasn't too many months into Slick Willie's presidency that all of Americas' productive industry moved offshore. "We" were unable to stop any of it. Now Hillary-care (with Obama-san merely its figurehead) is for REAL, and its effects will rip America's Middle Class immediately.
At the moment all We can register is a heightened sense of anger. Effectiveness, alas, eludes us altogether.
I liked Justin Raimondo's column today, "Springtime for Obama," which is linked on ANU News. He notes that the anti-war left is just about out of gas while the real anti-war fervor, and activism in general, comes now almost exclusively from the populist right.
We're where the action is, but many Nationalists still don't believe it. There too busy wallowing in their demoralization and hopelessness to realize yet that the situation isn't nearly as hopeless as it was before Obama was elected (or likely would be if McCain had won). The ideological walls that separate everyone on the "right" are crumbling, though there is still a ways to go, but it's encouraging to see the many types of activism taking place right now.
Raimondo column: http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2...springtime-for -obama/
There are two "rights" the real right which is the Nationalist Right and what we can call the "establishment" right for lack of a better word. Much of the "establishment" right are political hacks who could care less where they stand as long as they get elected. Often times the "establishment" right is actually left wingers who claim to be right-wingers in order to get elected.Originally Posted by DonWassall
When real issues of national importance come up the "establishment" right is missing any real opposition to the left. Of course, the left with a very few exceptions those few true believers who still stand against the wars, loves all the wars the USA is in because they are left wing wars
With every left-wing victory the Nationalist right becomes stronger but the danger is that the "establishment" right will try to misdirect the people from the Nationalist Right to the "establishment" right as is being attempted with the Tea parties right now! The Nationalist Right is the grassroots of the real right. The Nationalist Right is coming together because of the Diversity/Obama Depression and new bills like the Health Care bill will cause the people on the Nationalist or Populist Right to openly come together. The real cause of the split between the people on the grassroots right is between those who tell the whole truth and those who hide from it because of fear of being called "racist" or "anti-Semitic" or some other name, but as the country goes farther down the drain more and more of the Nationalist will stop caring about name calling and focus on saving the Country.
The more the left tells the right they are defeat the closer victory is. When it is all the left can talk about is how badly the right will lose, victory is at hand.
Conversation just now with a SC League of the South leader:
LOS: Did you hear what happened in the Governor's office yesterday? </span><br style="color: rgb(0, 51, 0);">/\/: No -- what?</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 51, 0);">LOS: They got thousands of calls from angry citizens demanding that he tell the feds the Obama health scheme isn't coming to South Carolina. </span><br style="color: rgb(0, 51, 0);">/\/.: You don't mean it!</span><br style="color: rgb(0, 51, 0);">LOS. Yes, and the SC and Florida Attorneys General are conferring on how to effect full-fledged NULLIFICATION on it. </span>
It's not over till ot's over, and something tells me this one's far from it. Three explosive little words in google:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&as_q=obama+health+resistance</span> &as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=10& lr=&as _filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr= all&as _rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&a s_nhi=& ;safe=images
the fragrant search results starting with a BEAUT of a commentary despite a Sean Vannity promotion smack in the middle of the text:
http://www.speroforum.com/a/29512/As...s-Celebrate-th e-Resistance-to-Obamacare-Begins
GA's negroid, Demoncrap AG Baker decides to cotton to Obongo, inc.
<H1>Baker to Perdue: No lawsuit over health care bill</H1>
12:27 pm March 24, 2010, by Aaron Gould Sheinin
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Attorney General Thurbert Baker told Gov. Sonny Perdue on Wednesday he will not file a federal lawsuit to block federal health care reform legislation signed into law this week.
Baker, a Democrat seeking his party’s nomination for governor, told the Republican Perdue that he was “unaware of any constitutional infirmities and do not think it would be prudent, legally or fiscally, to pursue such litigation. I must therefore respectfully decline your request.”
Perdue had asked Baker to join more than a dozen other attorneys general from around the country — all of whom are Republicans — to sue to block the federal legislation, which Perdue said will devastate the state budget due to increased Medicaid costs.
“I do not believe that Georgia has a viable legal claim against the United States,” Baker wrote.
His decision, he said, was based in part on the great expense a law suit would incur at a time of cratering state revenues.
“I cannot justify a decision to initiate expensive and time-consuming litigation that I believe has no legal merit,” Baker wrote. “In short, this litigation is likely to fail and will consume significant amounts of taxpayers’ hard-earned money in the process.”
Legal scholars around the country have largely opined that the lawsuits by the states face steep odds as the courts have largely protected Congress’ ability to act in this manner.
http://blogs.ajc.com/gold-dome-live/.../baker-to-perd ue-no-lawsuit-over-health-care-bill/
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Serves Sonny right -- he's one of the biggest traitors to Southern heritage in office.Of course, as a pseudocon faker he didn't mean he wanted to sue anybody, he was only doing a little posing to please the working-class "rubes" out there who are so bigoted against our illustrious Tan Everyperson Pezident. I'm not a mind reader, but I can pretty much assure you that's what's happening.
Sonny was the centerpiece of another absolutely meaningless but much-touted "republican revolution" -- Georgia's first GOP gov since Reconstruction, blah blah, bloodbath of Demoncrap incumbents at same time, yak yak -- but business as continued as usual down there.
Nelson, good take on "Scummy Purdoof". He betrayed his fellow Georgians on the state flag...and bowed down to the cultural marxist vermin. He is indeed a hardcore NeoCON.
For what it's worth, there are attorneys lining up to file the lawsuit (pro bono) on behalf of GA. I don't know if "Scummy" will re-attach his nards & pursue this, but I dang sure hope he does (as Georgian)...
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Republican Gov. Sonny Perdue said Thursday that he will bypass
Democratic Attorney General Thurbert Baker and create a “special
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Constitutionally, I believe he is obligated to represent the people
of Georgia in these issues,” Perdue said at a morning news conference.
“He’s refused to do that. I can’t force him to do that.”
Perdue, however, said the state constitution permits him to work
around Baker and appoint a special attorney general to file a lawsuit
against the health care legislation President Barack Obama signed into law earlier
this week.
The attorneys general in 14 states have announced they will file
health care suits, and the governor had asked Baker to get on board. But
in a two-page letter earlier this week, Baker told the governor the
lawsuit would fail and would be a waste of taxpayers’ money in a time
when every dollar is needed.
Baker, who is in a crowded field of Democrats running for governor,
said he stands firmly by his position. But he agreed with Perdue that
the governor can appoint a special attorney general to pursue the
lawsuit.
“That will be the governor’s prerogative,” Baker told The Atlanta
Journal-Constitution in an interview. “He can do that under state law.”
The governor said lawyers have lined up to represent the state pro
bono (for free) in any case against the federal government over health
care. Perdue said he will create a team of attorneys to file the lawsuit
in coming weeks. He and his spokesman, Bert Brantley, declined to name
the attorneys stepping forward.
“We have about a dozen names of people who have called and said they
want to take the lead or be on the team,” Brantley said. “We have to sit
down and go through those.”
Baker said he doubts that strategy will come without a cost when
staff time and other factors are considered.
“There will always be costs involved somewhere,” Baker said. “It’s
hard for the governor to argue this is purely pro bono. Somewhere money
will be spent.”
The Perdue-Baker spat has made national headlines and was even
featured Thursday on the liberal news site The Huffington Post. That
site picked up a story by a Republican blogger in Georgia who said there
was a move (no names attached) afoot in the state House of
Representatives to impeach Baker.
House leaders dismissed that notion later in the day, saying there
was no serious GOP movement to push for Baker’s ouster, though some
backseat Republicans had mentioned the prospect.
“I don’t think that will amount to much,” said state Rep. Earl
Ehrhart (R-Powder Springs).
Perdue and Baker are not strangers to conflict. They tied up in 2003
when Perdue ordered Baker to drop a redistricting fight and Baker
refused. The state Supreme Court backed Baker in that case.
The governor, however, said the court ruled only on legislation that
was under way and was ordered to be terminated. In the health care
fight, Baker refused to initiate a lawsuit ordered by the governor.
Perdue cited Article 5, Section 3, Paragraph 4 of the state
constitution, which states:
“The Attorney General shall act as the legal advisor of the executive
department, shall represent the state in the Supreme Court in all
capital felonies and in all civil and criminal cases in any court when
required by the Governor, and shall perform such other duties as shall
be required by law.”
The Perdue-Baker fight could have major implications in the
Democratic race for governor, where Baker was a long shot before the
dispute. Prominent Democrats, including former Gov. Roy Barnes and House
Minority Leader DuBose Porter (D-Dublin), are running against Baker to
replace Perdue, who has served two terms and cannot run again.
Baker’s fight with Perdue, which kept him in the news most of the
week, has elevated his name recognition and strengthened his standing in
the black community, University of Georgia political scientist Charles
Bullock said.
About half the votes in the Democratic primary are cast by
African-Americans, and the daily theater of a black attorney general
defying a white Republican governor who is trying to sue the nation’s
first African-American president plays well for Baker’s gubernatorial
campaign, Bullock said.
“The fact he is standing by the president really helps him,” Bullock
said. “And it offsets some of the criticism he has gotten in the black
community for being too close to Republicans.”
Perdue has argued that federal health care could cost the state
hundreds of millions of dollars. That money, he said, will eventually
hurt education and transportation since the funds will have to come from
other programs to balance the budget.
Supporters of the health care plan say Perdue and other Republicans
have vastly overstated new costs and overlooked savings tied to the
legislation.
Former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich appeared with the governor
Thursday at their Buckhead news conference. Gingrich blasted the Obama
health care plan but said there is no place for the threats and
vandalism allegedly committed by those angry over its passage.
“Just as there was no place for the kind of viciousness against Bush
and Cheney, there’s no place for viciousness against Democrats,”
Gingrich said.
But Gingrich refused to let Democrats totally off the hook, at one
point referring to Democratic leaders as “disingenuous.”
“I think the Democratic leadership has to take some real
responsibility for having run a machine that used corrupt tactics, that
bought votes, that bullied people, and as a result has enraged much of
the American people,” he said.
Quotes from Perdue, Baker
“Constitutionally, I believe he is obligated to represent the people
of Georgia in these issues. He’s refused to do that. I can’t force him
to do that.” -- Gov. Sonny Perdue, speaking about Attorney General
Thurbert Baker
“There will always be costs involved somewhere. It’s hard for the
governor to argue this is purely pro bono. Somewhere money will be
spent.” -- Attorney General Thurbert Baker, speaking about the
governor's plan to file suit against the federal health care overhaul.
http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-poli...ions/perdue-to -file-health-404398.html
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Whew -- a veritable blizzard of words by some MSM-scribbling noodnik about what will probably amount to not much. I get the impression that whenever a MSM editor sees conservative personages disagreeing about something they look at a reportrix and say "start scribbling and don't stop till you run out of ink."
What do you suppose has taken hold of Monny though, Gard? Such sudden, tenacious passion for the real world? He's not eligible for a 3rd term. Please keep us up on what if any signs of life (or nards) you see in his choices for special attorney general or in the next round of governor hopefuls. Say, is there an eerie silence there? This is an election year in that regard, no? I certainly hope Ray McBerry wins, but let's face it, it's not likely.
His article in Wikipedia is far better than most rightists', I see.
Somebody's said elsewhere that these state AG suits over Oh!Bummercare are mostly window dressing. May time prove them wrong -- somehow.
An article entitled "Dates That Destroyed America"
http://www.vdare.com/baldwin/100325_..._destroyed.htmPassage of the so-called "health care reform" bill in the House of Representatives this past Sunday, March 21 (I won’t even address the inferred unconstitutionality of Congress doing business on the Lord’s Day. See Article. I. Section. 7. Paragraph. 2.) drove yet another stake into the heart of America. For all intents and purposes, it is the health of the United States that is in dire need of healing. In fact, the US has been on extended life-support for decades. With its condition being rendered critical, and absent major surgery, its days are numbered. The passage of this bill only serves to further weaken an already frail Constitution. In fact, this one may prove to be the fatal blow. Lady Liberty may never recover.
An article entitled "Leftists boast that Obama’s “death panels” will “save money.”"
http://cofcc.org/2010/03/leftists-bo...bamas-death-pa nels-will-save-money/he extreme left and the Hispanic lobby have been calling for the looting of Medicare so that the money can fund welfare abusers using Medicaid. This means that elderly [mostly white people] who paid into Medicare their entire lives will have benefits slashed to pay for increases to welfare abusers [mostly non-whites].
The result is that end of life care will be dramatically shortened for elderly on Medicare, and they will die sooner. It will be up to unelected panels of bureaucrats to decide which treatments they should and should not receive. Opponents have dubbed these the “Obama Death Panels.”
Here you can see radical leftists, including a New York Times columnist joking about the term “death panel” and boasting that they will save money by denying treatments to elderly who spent their entire lives prepaying for the treatments through Medicare.
The Federal Government requires workers to pay 2.9% of their entire income to Medicare. Those who are self-employed pay a flat 2.9% of their income outright. If you have an employer, 1.45% is taken from your paycheck and your employer must pay another 1.45%. Medicare and Social Security is split between employer and employee so that most Americans don’t actually know how much they are really paying.
An article entitled "The Looming Obamacare Disaster"
http://www.davidduke.com/general/the...bamacare-disas ter_18013.htmlThe Democrats don’t seem to have thought out this whole Obamacare business very thoroughly even from the point of view of their own political advantage. It looks like an economic disaster in the making. Who will the public blame when it is almost impossible to get emergency room treatment and ordinary White people start dying because there were too many illegal alien Mexicans in the line ahead of them? In parts of southern Arizona, a number of obstetrics and gynecology clinics had to close because the illegal aliens bankrupted them. A pregnant White American woman would literally be endangering her life if she stayed at her home in certain parts of Arizona due to the long drive necessary to find a clinic that hadn’t been put out of business by Mexicans.
An article entitled "Obamacare: Big Brother Is Watching your Diet!!"
You don’t suppose every unapproved activity from being a little overweight, to having an occasional beer, to eating red meat to eating junk foods will be used to increase the cost of your medical insurance do you?
Obamacare isn’t "free" –at least not for White people. We will soon be forced to buy health insurance, and we’ll be forced to pay for "free" health insurance for all the needy Third World people, who can’t afford it or who are too lazy to work.
Now that the government is getting involved, they will want to start demanding that we supply them with any information they want, including how much each of us weighs and any other personal medical information. Who knows where that information will wind up? I’m sure there will be people in government willing to sell that information to credit card companies, direct marketing concerns and maybe even the tabloids
http://www.whitecivilrights.com/?p=3947
An article entitled "The Coming Tidal Wave of Obamacare Taxes"
Democrats only know how to do two things: tax and spend. Obama has just committed the US to provide medical insurance for everyone in America. On Jan. 1st, 2011 we will be forced to start paying the bill for that monstrous mandate. Not only are the Bush tax cuts gone, tax brackets will soon be going up. And look forward to a 55 percent death tax. Obama and the Dems will literally be picking the pockets of dead White people to pay for all the little brown Latino babies that the Democrats consider the future of America.
http://www.whitecivilrights.com/?p=3972
An article entitled "71% of Missouri Voters Reject Obamacare"
Missouri Proposition C passed with a statewide 71.1% Yes vote. All counties in the state passed it, but in St. Louis City and Kansas City it failed. Kansas City, with a 12.78% voter turnout (the lowest turnout in the state), still had a 43.5% Yes vote. St. Louis City, with the second lowest turnout of 13.56%, voted 41.1% Yes.
Seems like the voter fraud engines in those two cities didn’t run well in the extreme summer heat, or maybe there wasn’t sufficient funds in this election to get them started.
http://cofcc.org/2010/08/71-of-misso...-reject-obamac are/
An article entitled "Obamacare To Cost American Families $15,200 A Year"
http://www.davidduke.com/general/oba...cost-american- families-15200-a-year_19457.htmlWith the November elections coming up fast, it would be a good time to take another look at Obamacare and what a burden it will be –right in the middle of a serious economic Depression. Despite the illusions of many people in America, Obamacare is nothing less than FORCING most working Americans to buy health care insurance. We’re already shelling out a lot of money for mandatory car insurance even though people somehow got by without car insurance until about 1975. The insurance companies however buy crooked politicians and hence we have mandatory car insurance and soon mandatory health care insurance. How much will this wind up costing us? A lot. Below is an article from CNS giving some alarming details. –James Buchanan</span>
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