Almost lost in all the turgid news coverage of the hurricane disaster is this little crumb about New Orleans: "These are not individuals looting," Colonel Ebbert said. "These are large groups of armed individuals."
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/31/na...ionalspecial/3 1cnd-storm.html?hp&ex=1125547200&en=737b69f420b 8d648 &ei=5094&partner=homepage
What on earth does that mean? Are they trying not to say the word "gangs"? Something tells me this is another of the Headlines That Never Were, i.e. that there's a lot more to it they aren't telling us for all the usual reasons.
[QUOTE=nelson] Almost lost in all the turgid news coverage of the hurricane disaster is this little crumb about New Orleans: "These are not individuals looting," Colonel Ebbert said. "These are large groups of armed individuals."
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/31/national/nationalspecial/3 1cnd-storm.html?hp&ex=1125547200&en=737b69f420b 8d648 &ei=5094&partner=homepage
What on earth does that mean? Are they trying not to say the word "gangs"? Something tells me this is another of the Headlines That Never Were, i.e. that there's a lot more to it they aren't telling us for all the usual reasons /QUOTE]
This tells it all; I'll give you one guess as to the ethnicity of the looters.
By KEVIN McGILL, Associated Press Writer 1 hour, 1 minute ago
NEW ORLEANS - With law officers and National Guardsmen focused on saving lives, looters around the city spent another day brazenly ransacking stores for food, clothing, appliances — and guns.
Thieves commandeered a forklift and used it to push up the storm shutters and break the glass of a pharmacy. The crowd stormed the store, carrying out so much ice, water and food that it dropped from their arms as they ran. The street was littered with packages of ramen noodles and other items.
Looters also chased down a state police truck full of food. The New Orleans police chief ran off looters while city officials themselves were commandeering equipment from a looted Office Depot. During a state of emergency, authorities have broad powers to take private supplies and buildings for their use.
Officials tried to balance security needs with saving lives.
"We're multitasking right now," said New Orleans Police Capt. Marlon Defillo. "Rescue, recovery, stabilization of looting, we're trying to feed the hungry."
Gov. Kathleen Blanco said she has asked the White House to send more people to help with evacuations and rescues, thereby freeing up National Guardsmen to stop looters.
"We need to free up the National Guard to do security in the city," Blanco said.
New Orleans' homeland security chief, Terry Ebbert, said looters were breaking into stores all over town and stealing guns. He said there are gangs of armed men moving around the city. At one point, officers stranded on the roof of a hotel were fired at by criminals on the street.
The Times-Picayune newspaper reported that the gun section at a new Wal-Mart had been cleaned out by looters.
Authorities said an officer was shot in the head and a looter was wounded in a shootout. The officer was expected to survive.
Staff members at Children's Hospital huddled with sick youngsters and waited in vain for help to arrive as looters tried to break through the locked door, Blanco spokeswoman Denise Bottcher told the newspaper. Neither the police nor the National Guard arrived.
Authorities planned to send more than 70 additional officers and an armed personnel carrier into the city.
In the meantime, city authorities were putting a higher priority on rescuing victims and repairing a levee breach that was spilling water into the streets.
"One of our fears is if we don't stop the breach, that we will put good people's lives in jeopardy," the governor said. "We are concerned about essentials. We are asking for more military presence in the city to control the situation better.
On New Orleans' Canal Street, dozens of looters ripped open the steel gates on clothing and jewelry stores and grabbed merchandise. In Biloxi, Miss., people picked through casino slot machines for coins and ransacked other businesses. In some cases, the looting was in full view of police and National Guardsmen.
The historic French Quarter appeared to have been spared the worst flooding, but its stores were getting the worst of human nature.
"The looting is out of control. The French Quarter has been attacked," Councilwoman Jackie Clarkson said. "We're using exhausted, scarce police to control looting when they should be used for search and rescue while we still have people on rooftops."
Sen. Mary Landrieu (news, bio, voting record)'s helicopter was taking off Tuesday for a flyover of the devastation and she watched as a group of people smashed a window at a gas-station convenience store and jumped in.
At a drug store in the French Quarter, people were running out with grocery baskets and coolers full of soft drinks, chips and diapers. Other looters were seen leaving a store with armfuls of tennis shoes and football jerseys.</DIV></DIV>
The greatest threat to freedom is not foreign governments. It is our own.
"New Orleans' homeland security chief, Terry Ebbert, said looters were breaking into stores all over town and stealing guns. He said there are gangs of armed men moving around the city. At one point, officers stranded on the roof of a hotel were fired at by criminals on the street.
"The Times-Picayune newspaper reported that the gun section at a new Wal-Mart had been cleaned out by looters.
"Authorities said an officer was shot in the head and a looter was wounded in a shootout. The officer was expected to survive."
I would not want to be a white person stuckin New Orleans right now.
Editor, The Nationalist Times, Voice of the Real America since 1985
Originally Posted by Don Wassall
You are right, Race War in full swing down there.
Luckily many of the Whites got out earlier. In
the pictures from the shelters especially the Superdome only a small
number of Whites were there. One does feel sorry for those Whites
who have been trapped down there or in the refugee camps wherever they
end up. Most people from Louisiana know if at all possible to avoid
blacks especially in a disaster area. A lot of the
Whites from there appear to have made it to Arkansas.
The problem is if people become trapped
unexpectedly. The problem is the government is so insistent
on integrating everything and you can’t put Whites and blacks together
without the blacks causing problems. That ends up denying
Whites badly needed assistance.
The Very First Thing
More than one family I know, fleeing LA or MS in the mass evacuation, had a most urgent priority task to undertake on Saturday or Sunday past: Retrieve all relatives from New Orleans AT ALL COSTS! Then, and only then, could the general evacuation commence. Thankfully, they succeeded.
Returning the same relatives (usually elderly) to the city is now gravely in question. Maybe in five years.
"Senator Mary Landrieu" ... just the concept is a joke.
<DIV align=left>"New Orleans' homeland security chief, Terry Ebbert" -- if that phrase isn't the ultimate irony, what is? He's powerless for any kind of security, because Homeland Security has all "our troops" saving Iraq from itself 7,000 miles from Bourbon Street. </DIV>
<DIV align=left>Everything the System says, you can believe the exact opposite, like the warning notice glued on mailboxes for some years now -- "Due to heightened security [i.e. greatly lowered and compromised security] the following materials cannot be mailed....."</DIV>
<DIV align=left>the fedgov spends a third of a billion a year on "defense" that doesn't defend diddly squat, and "Homeland Security" employs one out of every 1600 people in this country -- for what? So its staff can enjoy fuller "security" in the mortages on their "home" and "land"?</DIV>
<DIV align=left>Am I being too cynical?[img]smileys/smiley2.gif[/img]</DIV>
<DIV align=left>Specialty majors are the rage on some campuses | csmonitor.com
... management. According to The Wall Street Journal, the Department of Homeland Security employs about 180,000 workers. Translation ...
http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1005/p...egn.html?s=hns - 59k - Supplemental Result - <NOBR>Cached - Similarpages</NOBR> </DIV></TD></TR></T></TABLE>
Dept of Homeland Security is Giant Sucking Sound
With apologies to Ross Perot .... Untold numbers of REAL workers and managers and dedicated folks in FedGov (really, they exist)felt the Giant Sucking Sound four years ago with the arrival of the Federal DHS. All knew that their agencies and project would suffer neglect as tax bucks funnelled furiously away from established agencies (some with actual, rational missions) and toward the new KGB. We are getting what we paid for.
.... And a Good Story of Euro-Americans assisting one-another in Crisis Conditions
[I used to date a girl in Pearlington many years ago, wonder if she and her family are OK]
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<H1>Pearlington thankful for Danese's efforts</H1>
BY JIM MASHEK SUN HERALD
PEARLINGTON -- Eight or nine hearty residents of this hardscrabble town spent Friday afternoon outside the ruins of Turtle Landing, a restaurant and watering hole on U.S. 90, just a few hundred yards from the Louisiana state line. </DIV>
Of course, they had nowhere else to go. "
We lost our trailer, we lost our two dogs, we lost everything," said Connie Crapeau, whose husband, Joe, was the manager at the Turtle Landing. "I'm still waiting to hear from my two daughters who evacuated. We have no communication whatsover."
No transportation, either.
And the stench left by the fury of Hurricane Katrina was definitely on the rise.
"We had 30, 35 feet of storm surge, right over the bar," Joe Crapeau said.
The Crapeaus spent the night on a church roof, waiting for help. It came from Jonathan Danese, who had an 18-foot boat that was soon making rounds throughout the Oak Harbor subdivision.
Danese's instincts, a dozen or so Pearlington residents insisted Friday, saved several lives in Katrina's aftermath.
"Eight of us were on our roof," James Sheffield said. "He took us all, one at a time." Sheffield, 57, isn't in the best of health, but he's a spry guy with a lot of spirit.
Before long, more than 30 Pearlington residents had taken refuge in a new home built 15 feet above the ground. The house hasn't even been sold, but it remains the primary residence for three families constantly effects of heat, misery and isolation.
They are dealing with all three, quite admirably, under the circumstances.
Connie Ladner, 55, was supposed to be taking her 18-year-old son, Daniel, to classes at Mississippi State. Instead, it looks like he won't enroll until the spring.
She just wants people to know they're stuck in Pearlington. They literally have nowhere to go.
"The salt water killed every car in this community," Ladner said. "We're on foot."
Danese, 36, was an infant when Hurricane Camille unleashed its wrath on the Coast in 1969. He's been dealing with tropical weather his whole life. He followed the progress of Katrina, which became a Category 5 storm for a while last Sunday, but he's never evacuated for a hurricane.
Glen Pierson, for one, is grateful for that fact.
"I was in a single-story home, and it was flooded, bad," Pierson said. "I got out with an ice chest, to keep floating, with my little dog in it. I swam out, into the current, and Jonathan was there. Thank the Good Lord."
Danese pulled Pierson to safety, and that set off a chain reaction of sorts.
"Glen and I heard people screaming to help them," Danese said. "So we went after them."
Ladner and her family. Sheffield, Chris Peters and Jaunelle Lewis. An elderly fellow in the neighbood.
"That was Mr. Dupre," Pierson said. "Another five minutes go by, he would have been dead."
Danese is a nurse in Slidell. But he's not sure his employer, a nursing home, will ever reopen.
"I don't know if I have a job or not," Danese said.
He spent Friday afternoon under a tent cleaning wet shotgun shells with his elder brother, Brian, and his brother-in-law, Dan. Brian Danese is a minister at a Seventh-Day Adventist Church in Shreveport, La. He made the trip to Pearlington on Tuesday, and he's heard everyone in town paint his kid brother as a hero.
"We've been humbling him since we got out here today," Brian Danese said with a grin. "He's become hard to live with."
These Pearlington residents say they've seen a few military helicopters and the occasional sheriff's patrol car or Mississippi State Police vehicle since the storm. The Crapeaus, among others, are not real happy with the response of the feds, and they were particularly critical of President Bush.
On the other hand, a FEMA guy stopped by for a few minutes, the Danese brothers said.
"He came by and took our names and Social Security numbers, and that was it," Jonathan Danese said. "We don't know anything, except what people drive by and tell us. There's not much left here. A lot of people I've talked to said they ain't coming back."
Jim Mashek's column has appeared in The Sun Herald sports section since 1994. Mashek hails from Houston and suburban Washington, D.C., and graduated from Western Kentucky University in 1978. He has worked at newspapers in Mississippi, Louisiana and Texas. </TD></TR></T></T></TABLE>Edited by: Realgeorge
One More Tale from The Mississippi Woods
" I wanted to pass along a message from a fellow employee at Xxxxx Division, Fred Xxxx , who a lot of you know, that has traveled to Mississippi right after the hurricane hit. He went to provide assistance to his elderly parents, relatives and friends who have also been hit hard by this catastrophe. As you can see by his troubled message below he has now gone beyond just aiding family members to aiding all others in the area during these tragic circumstances. His message speaks for itself.
If you or anyone you know feel compelled to give some direct assistance to those who need it very badly, please contact me either through email or by calling my cell phone at xxx-xx-xxxx. It may be very difficult to get through to Fred on his cell, phone but if you would like to try and talk to him, please call him directly at xxx-xx-xxxx.
I would like to let you and anyone else who reads this e-mail to know just
how bad it is down here in Hattiesburg, Mississippi and I haven't even been
further south yet.
I received an emergency call Tuesday from my father who said that they were trapped
in their neighborhood and desperately low on generator gas, food and water.
I immediately loaded up that night with generators, 70 gallons in fuel,
chain saws and all the food and water I could carry. Thank god I gassed
up to the fuel lip in Tuscaloosa, Ala because nothing was available from
there south, 176 miles to H'burg.
The Gulf Coast and New Orleans are all over the news but I don't think
anyone knows how bad it is outside those areas. Gas here, if you can find
it, requires a 3 hr or more wait. With a $20 limit at $3 a gallon, you
get almost nothing. We have been helping so many people that can't get
help. Red Cross has a food bank set up here, but no mobile services are
available. So many poor people here with no cars and no gas and can't get
out to get the food. They are trapped in their neighborhoods from gigantic
trees all over the roads. Many neighborhoods have very narrow corridors between
chain sawed trees. Power lines are down everywhere on streets, many propped
up with 2 x 4's just enough to get under them. Everyone almost ran out
of fuel 2 days ago. We got all the spare gas can we could find, 2 dozen and filled
up my truck enough to make it make to Tuscaloosa, Ala for a fuel and food
run. We Left at 8 pm and got back at 6 am with $500 worth of fuel. Every
inch of the truck was full of food such as produce, milk etc.
Personally beyond family needs, friends and I are now driving into
locked in areas by chain sawing in and are handing out what food, water
and ice we can. It's heart breaking and dangerous. Looting is rampant
here even with the curfew. To date, I've talked to a 1/2 dz. people
that were robbed or beaten. Yesterday, I pulled up to a demolished home
where an elderly woman taking care of a baby about a year old. I
offered her food, water and milk for the baby, she cried for 10 minutes, on
my shoulder. She, like so many others hadn't eaten anything for 3 days. She
was giving the baby boiled water. It's the same everywhere. We have local reports
of refugees coming out of South Mississippi and Louisiana by foot in groups
that were trapped with no help in rural areas. Unfortunately, people that
couldn't walk anymore were left to die on the side of the road.
I am appealing to anyone who hasn't donated to the Red Cross yet, to
please donate money for the people outside of the large cities who have been
hit so hard with devastation. We are making runs 176 miles to
Tuscaloosa as often as we can and when we have enough money and gas cans to do so.
We are literally bringing back as much as we have space for. Unfortunately,
I can only finance so much, myself. We are beginning to branch out
farther and farther towards the coast and will carry in as much food etc.,
that we can.
Anyone that wants to help should contact Joe Xxxx. Everything will pipeline through my
wife, Xxxx, who will transfer donations to our Visa Account so that continued purchases
can be bought for distribution.
I have a contact with the National Guard who is providing all the MRE's that I'm able to
handle and to pass out. I don't think I can account for things good
enough for tax write-offs etc. but we will get a list of people and what
was sent. When I have to leave here in approx. 2 wks, any funds left will
be given to the Red Cross.
Thank you again for all your help. Please let everyone know that myself and family
are safe and well. However, the devastation is unbelievable and unbearable to see.
Fred Xxxx Division "
Whites are having to do much of the helping of the Whites themselves
for the government is too busy helping the blacks who don’t seem to be
able to do anything but cause mayhem
The government and the mainstream media has started to refer to the
refugees from New Orleans as evacuees because the blacks
complained. The foreign press was using the word “refugees”
as a code word for blacks who were attacking their citizens.
Before long the word “evacuee” is going to get a bad rap because of the
way the blacks behave and they will need to find yet another new
word. Of course, we could use the word “refugee” to refer to the
White refugees from Katrina who are looking for a safe place for
themselves and their families, and the word “evacuee” as black evacuees
as people who the government has moved and imposed on other people so
they can carry on with their parasitic behavior and mayhem creating.
fascinating! now we know why the word refugees was declared taboo. but why did one even stop to wonder about it, after everything we've been through with the words "negro," "colored," "black", "Afro-American" et al for the past 40 years.
Michael has given us the essence of liberalism and the futility of trying to pacify it all over again. it's no use to even try, because Those People are never going to stop playing mind and word games on us. bite the bait re "evacuee," and immediately that word won't be good enough anymore either. this is what Lewis Carroll was getting at with his extremely profound "clean cups" theme in the story of the Mad Hatter's tea party. "clean cups! clean cups!" was the cry when they'd used one round of dishes, and the answer was to move up the table to yet unused ones - over and over, never to wash any for reuse, i.e. fixing the problem at its root. thus does socialism constantly run off to some new moral innovation or buzzword or round of b---s---, with supposedly intelligent people trailing after them thinking it's meaningful.
you can't try to reason with wild animals who want to eat you for dinner, world --you just can't. and you can't regard spoiled children who are decades overdue for a spanking as the other end of a serious, intelligent discussion.