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    The American Third Position Party

    Founded a mere two years ago the American Third Position Party is the foremost nationalist party that represents the political interests of white Americans. For those unfamiliar to the A3P and new to the forum the following article by Ted Sallis, "Taking an Initial Look at the American Third Position Party," is a good introduction and synopsis of its platform.

    Article: Taking an Initial Look at the American Third Position Party - The Occidental Observer - January 21, 2010
    http://www.toqonline.com/blog/taking...osition-party/

    The A3P has a new web address that should be up shortly.
    http://american3rdposition.org/
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    Breaking from the current false left-right political paradigm the A3P offers voters a genuine third party to support. Interested in reading an objective overview of the party and its positions Alicia Rose's 5-page political party profile is highly recommended.

    Article: American Third Position (A3P) : Liberty, Sovereignty and Identity - Associated Content - Apr 2, 2010
    http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...rty.html?cat=9
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    Former Newspaper of the Populist Party Becomes the Official Organ of A3P Party

    Perfect fit.

    "The Populist Party ran candidates in the United States from 1984 through 1994, on a platform that suggested that whites are discriminated against by many government policies. The presidential nominees of the Populist Party were Bob Richards in 1984, David Duke in 1988, and Bo Gritz in 1992. The party’s newspaper was The Nationalist Times, published originally in Pennsylvania. The party ceased to exist but the newspaper continued, as a monthly. It is now published in Nevada. On July 1, American Third Position, a new party with somewhat similar views to the Populist Party, announced that The Nationalist Times is the party’s official organ. Don Wassall has been the editor ever since the paper was established."

    Article: Former Newspaper of the Populist Party Becomes the Official Organ of American Third Position -Ballot Access News - July 2, 2011
    http://www.ballot-access.org/2011/07...hird-position/

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    Hopefully that will get its' circulation up

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    It's obvious we need a third party when you listen to the present gang running for the presidency wasting our time talking about who made money years ago and how; climate change; who once said something; and who is the most conservative. Yeah, as if I am going to vote for a candidate whose views on the weather agree or disagree with mine. And I really don't give a hoot how much money any of them have or how they made it. In fact I don't even care about taxes or the unemployment figures.

    The issues concerning me are the culture questions. Why can't one of the just come out and say "The hell with political correctness," or "If I am elected I will move to stop all further Muslim immigration into this country," or maybe "If Obama will not enforce the Defense of Marriage Act why isn't he being impeached--since this is the law as designed by Congress!

    Remember, once the culture rots everything else sinks with it.
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    Good questions, and here's the reason: the mentality of the dumb masses thanks to scientific manipulation by experts (search "bernays" anywhere). Even half the passably conservative people are led around the nose by the media. Look how many endlessly parrot the clichés that Ron Paul's a "racist", "extreme" etc.

    If, for instance, Dr. Paul promised to stop Muslim immigration as prez, those people would run off bleating "We just can't have a BIGOT president -- NEWT, WHERE ARE YOU?"..... and Ron would definitely be a candidate for assassination.

    Ex-KKK Glenn Miller ran on exactly the platform you describe a few years ago. It was beautiful -- the campaign ads of our dreams, media "personalities" wetting their pants in rage and fear, some discovering they basically had to run the ads whether they liked it or not. I might have covered it here at the time. If conditions really enter free fall, the public might demand a so-called extremist and get one. Anything's possible in theory.

    Other tho'ts?

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    Professor Kevin MacDonald stated that the A3P will be fielding a 2012 presidential ticket. This is mentioned in his TOO December 26th article, The Empire Attacks Ron Paul, http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net...acks-ron-paul/

    "The death of the Republican Party may eventually result in an opening for the American Third Position as an explicitly pro-White party. For 2012, the A3P has nominated Merlin Miller and Virginia Abernethy for president and vice-president respectively. We may not win it this time, but let’s hope the message starts getting out that despite the current state of the media, it’s perfectly legitimate to talk about White identity and interests. And it’s eminently reasonable to lament the disappearing White majority. In his heart of hearts, I suspect that Ron Paul agrees with that."

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    A3P Outreach

    A3P Outreach

    A good friend of mine at a well-know Nationalist group in America, twice this year, has breathlessly informed me about the latest new "Smash" Nationalist group that will revolutionize the Nationalist movement. The latest two groups brought to my attention were "American New Right" and the "Equal Party." A sprawling proliferation of American Nationalist groups has a good aspect, that being that more American Nationalist groups, and seemingly, more American Nationalists, are popping up all around us.

    A different, unfavorable aspect is also present, and has been discussed deeply by such Nationalist leaders as our current ANU Director DW and the old National Alliance leader William Pierce. The simple message is that American Nationalist leadership needs, quickly, to boil down to a single group or individual for eventual victory over the New World Order to take place. Dr. Pierce wrote a four-page tome about this in the ending pages of the National Vanguard Bookstore catalog ca. 1998. HIs paraphrased message was to, at all costs. seek out the American Nationalist group or leader that has the greatest likelihood of conquering political America, and pour all of your efforts into that one single group.

    The emergence of American Third Position on the scene is a milestone in the American Nationalist process. Hopefully this milestone is the beginning of consolidation. Time will tell. A3P's effectiveness will hinge on its ability to eventually either defeat or absorb rival Nationalist organizations. I hope that this thread will stimulate some conversation about Who's Who in the Nationalist movement, who needs to be assimilated ("Resistance is Futile!"), turned into allies, or otherwise brought into serious alliance with A3P. Now, breathlessly, we catalog two Nationalist competitors:

    - The American New Right

    This organization describes itself like this: "We are the American branch of New Right, an international organization of revolutionary conservatives. We advocate unlimited individual freedom, a decentralized economy, harmony with the environment, and the right of all people to preserve their heritage and traditions." ANR's website is at URL http://newrightamerica.blogspot.com/ . Quick examination of ANR is an obvious Nationalist, pro-White organization with some intelligence and dedication in its ranks. Breathlessly we indicate a second group:

    - Equal Party USA

    These folks have a well-developed internet site that also obviously contains effort, talent, and good intentions. Their self-description is this: "Our Solution Set: We The decent People of our country must 1. unify, 2. win, and 3. govern our country. After we unify, we win by:a. Voting our Core Group of honest, open citizens (you and me) into office to replace all national elected leaders. b. Voting by Write-In voting, thus avoiding the fixed electronic-voting system, and enforced by We The People." URL is http://equalpartyusa.wordpress.com/ So a new angle on gaining power is the write-in vote.

    Breathlessly, I now ask the leadership of American Third Position to answer up. Does A3P have "diplomatic relations" with these two groups? Are they "good" or "bad"? Is there an A3P strategy to bring them on board? Tell us please!

    In a future installment I will catalog some longer-tenured Nationalist groups whose mission is similar to A3P, and also to ANU. From experience I know that this is a VERY TOUCHY subject, that of outreach to rivals. But I am compelled to scratch that itch! Time is short! The time is now!
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    A3P Outreach

    Three more organizations that are A3P "Outreach" candidates:

    - The Council of Conservative Citizens
    Is nominally in favor of success for the A3P. Citizens Informer hasn't run any A3P ads yet. I would like to see that. Citizens Informer is top-notch Nationalist (after many years in the desert) and generally, CofCC can be described as a "Sister organization" to the American Nationalist Union. A3P Directors, comment?

    - Middle American News
    I wrote a direct letter to these folks: "Do You Support the New Political Party, the American Third Position?" That was six weeks ago, no reply. "Americans for Immigration Control", Peter Gemma, et al. Friend or foe? Is A3P in contact here? Guidance? Comment?

    - America First Party
    Three or four years ago, fellow ANU nationalists informed me that this party is the product of at least one heavy-duty pro-Israel Zionist who would barely pass as a "Conservative." Any redeeming features?

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    Quote Originally Posted by realgeorge88 View Post
    The emergence of American Third Position on the scene is a milestone in the American Nationalist process. Hopefully this milestone is the beginning of consolidation. Time will tell. A3P's effectiveness will hinge on its ability to eventually either defeat or absorb rival Nationalist organizations. I hope that this thread will stimulate some conversation about Who's Who in the Nationalist movement, who needs to be assimilated ("Resistance is Futile!"), turned into allies, or otherwise brought into serious alliance with A3P.
    In 2002, A3P Director James Edwards was an America First Party candidate for Tennessee State House District 97. Attention to the incorporation of smaller nationalist and paleoconservative political parties should be the focus.

    Organizations such as the American New Right, the CofCC and Middle American News should remain independent entities.

    The best way for those who want to see the A3P grow and become the foremost nationalist party is suspend all financial donations to other political parties. Since joining the A3P I have stopped giving occasional donations to the Constitution Party for ballot access and membership dues and to the America First Party years before that. I do encourage and still give contributions to individual candidates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by realgeorge88 View Post
    A3P Outreach

    A good friend of mine at a well-know Nationalist group in America, twice this year, has breathlessly informed me about the latest new "Smash" Nationalist group that will revolutionize the Nationalist movement. The latest two groups brought to my attention were "American New Right" and the "Equal Party." A sprawling proliferation of American Nationalist groups has a good aspect, that being that more American Nationalist groups, and seemingly, more American Nationalists, are popping up all around us.

    A different, unfavorable aspect is also present, and has been discussed deeply by such Nationalist leaders as our current ANU Director DW and the old National Alliance leader William Pierce. The simple message is that American Nationalist leadership needs, quickly, to boil down to a single group or individual for eventual victory over the New World Order to take place. Dr. Pierce wrote a four-page tome about this in the ending pages of the National Vanguard Bookstore catalog ca. 1998. HIs paraphrased message was to, at all costs. seek out the American Nationalist group or leader that has the greatest likelihood of conquering political America, and pour all of your efforts into that one single group.

    The emergence of American Third Position on the scene is a milestone in the American Nationalist process. Hopefully this milestone is the beginning of consolidation. Time will tell. A3P's effectiveness will hinge on its ability to eventually either defeat or absorb rival Nationalist organizations. I hope that this thread will stimulate some conversation about Who's Who in the Nationalist movement, who needs to be assimilated ("Resistance is Futile!"), turned into allies, or otherwise brought into serious alliance with A3P. Now, breathlessly, we catalog two Nationalist competitors:

    - The American New Right

    This organization describes itself like this: "We are the American branch of New Right, an international organization of revolutionary conservatives. We advocate unlimited individual freedom, a decentralized economy, harmony with the environment, and the right of all people to preserve their heritage and traditions." ANR's website is at URL http://newrightamerica.blogspot.com/ . Quick examination of ANR is an obvious Nationalist, pro-White organization with some intelligence and dedication in its ranks. Breathlessly we indicate a second group:

    - Equal Party USA

    These folks have a well-developed internet site that also obviously contains effort, talent, and good intentions. Their self-description is this: "Our Solution Set: We The decent People of our country must 1. unify, 2. win, and 3. govern our country. After we unify, we win by:a. Voting our Core Group of honest, open citizens (you and me) into office to replace all national elected leaders. b. Voting by Write-In voting, thus avoiding the fixed electronic-voting system, and enforced by We The People." URL is http://equalpartyusa.wordpress.com/ So a new angle on gaining power is the write-in vote.

    Breathlessly, I now ask the leadership of American Third Position to answer up. Does A3P have "diplomatic relations" with these two groups? Are they "good" or "bad"? Is there an A3P strategy to bring them on board? Tell us please!

    In a future installment I will catalog some longer-tenured Nationalist groups whose mission is similar to A3P, and also to ANU. From experience I know that this is a VERY TOUCHY subject, that of outreach to rivals. But I am compelled to scratch that itch! Time is short! The time is now!
    I've never heard of either. The reality is that anyone can start a blog and call himself whatever impressive sounding group name he wants. Most of the hundreds of "hate groups" listed by the SPLC are one-person operations and even many of them are for all intents and purposes defunct.

    There are very few actual membership groups left -- A3P, ANU and CofCC are about it. ANU has good relations with CofCC and also AmRen.
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    Thank you, Don. This is very useful. Time and money resources, to be offered in support of American Nationalism, are scarce and precious. A "One Hit Wonder" Nationalist organization is not where I would want to invest.

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    What is the A3P "position" on the Gordon Duff "Veterans Today" internet outlet? Mr. Duff columns are repeated frequently in The First Freedom newspaper, clearly an ANU and A3P ally. Veteranstoday.com gets special consideration, in my estimation, for a few reasons:
    1. The site is amazingly anti-Zionist and anti-New World Order. Here's what I mean by amazingly: I work in the belly of the beast. Nationlist sites like ANU, First Freedom, American Renaissance, VDare, and many others, simply aren't accessible on Corporate or Govt computers. They are blocked by censors. Yet somehow, VeteransToday is not blocked. Thus mililtant American Nationalism makes its way into the otherwise controlled Corporate and Government internet workplace.
    2. The site indeed covers Veteran's advocay issues, with an extremely sharp edge -- protecting the poor GI who gets maimed in Afghanistan, even though he might have been duped into joining the Army with the usual recruting garbage.
    3. Duff himself has a verifiable Vietnam combat record.

    Just my opinion, but many of Duff's editorials contain similar information, and sound just like, those one finds in The Nationalist Times. I think this is GOOD. Can Mr. Duff be brought on as a Political Candidate for Office under the American Third Position Party?

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    More A3P Outreach

    Here we go again. At this late date in American Nationalism ... yet ANOTHER new spring-up group of Nationalists, preparing to save White America. BigSteve posts today (22 Jan 12) about EAAC:

    The European American Action Coalition(EAAC) is an organization that advocates on behalf of White Americans. The EAAC was founded in the fall of 2011 by a few well known White activists in the great and historic state of Pennsylvania. Throughout the years, Pennsylvania has been known across the country - even the world as being an active and successful region for the pro-White cause. With the formation of the EAAC we hope to continue to make an impact, not only in the state of PA, but also other neighboring states!--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    So I ask the A3P leadership: Who are these guys? Know any of them? Worth bringing into the fold?

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    Including "Action" in the name shows a momentous level of commitment. I eagerly await news of the EAAC's work.

    Most unusual that they use the word Coalition, though -- generally a leftist trademark, though patriots did a big anonymous mailing a few years back to sink a certain politician under the sarcastic moniker Coalition For Fairness And Diversity. Made page one of the Greenville Snooze!

    The hard-copy Webster's confirms my notion that "coalition" normally means a joint effort by multiple groups. Historically, most of them contain lots of coal.
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    [QUOTE=realgeorge88;19488]What is the A3P "position" on the Gordon Duff "Veterans Today" internet outlet? Mr. Duff columns are repeated frequently in The First Freedom newspaper, clearly an ANU and A3P ally. Veteranstoday.com gets special consideration, in my estimation, QUOTE]

    Latest "Veteranstoday.com" contains a savage hit-article against Ron Paul and libertarianism. But reading the article, it attacks Dr. Paul in a completely Leftist bent, i.e., Libertarianism and Paul are bad because they will point to Freedom and Free Markets to regulate behaviors in American, when far better would be Authoritarian Socialist top-down planning.

    The author's name was Eric Wattree who represents a beast called "Citizens Against Reckless Middle-Class Abuse (CARMA)." I read it over and over, and the article CLEARLY was a leftist, anti-White diatribe. So what is that doing on the great Mr. Duff's website? So VeteransToday.com definitely comes under what ANU Director calls "Left-Populist".

    Shows you what I know about alternative media websites and personalities.

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    One bad apple doesn't condemn the whole species

    The stuff I've found to disagree with in two of our favorite newspapers -- and the fury of their editors when I've ventured to mention it -- would have run some other readers off (not you) from them ages ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by realgeorge88 View Post
    So VeteransToday.com definitely comes under what ANU Director calls "Left-Populist".
    That's what I find the site to be. Kind of like Dennis Kucinich on steroids. They have useful information and I have linked more than a few of their articles on ANU News, but almost all of those deal with Zionism, Israel, and 9/11.
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    Nearly all Nationalist and Patriotic sites that have anything bad to say about Israel, Jews, Zionism,9/11, or anything pro-White whatsoever, are banned from all FedGov and many Corporate servers. In the belly of the beast where I toil, just about all of my favorite political sites are blocked. The "Error message" provided by Big Brother network ops provides such loving banners as "Prohibited due to racism and hate" and "Prohibited due to Malicious content." Somehow VeteransToday.com is unblocked even with very strong anti-Israel 9-11 truth content.

    And strangely, politically incorrect sites are merely banned, while pornographic sites, part-and-parcel of the Jewish underworld, are at-your-own-risk, unblocked, and can and do get folks fired for connecting to them.

    I haven't seen what happens with the American Third Position sites. I'll find out.

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    I' surprised that ANU and sites like WNN and the American Third Position aren't filtered out, but I guess it's only a matter of time.
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