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    Just found this note on an NPR broadcast from a while back which I think I threw into the mix here at the time. The news was (as many of you will recall) that BLOGGERS are pulling business massively away from the "mainstream" media...... and at the time they mentioned CBS, "the Tiffany of networks," as an especial loser in this regard -- specifically for its reportage of W's wartime record and the faking of documents about it that had just then come to light. If anybody can remember the details, bring 'em on.


    Google reveals CBS being somewhat freely referred to as the Tiffany of networks...... meaning, I suppose, that it has the most overblown ego, dazzling promotional graphics, garish headquarters in JYC, etc........ whew, the CANT* of PC is enough to make you gag!


    * http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=cant


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    Until recently, I listened to the Bob Grant show on the radio WOR710 AM(he "retired"). He wasthe outstanding radio talk show host in this country as far as I'm concerned. You could call up and talk about any topic, within reason.Of course, he'd draw the line at mass extermination, Id think. As long as you stated yourthoughts respectfully and lucidly, he'd hear youout. He was well read and up on everything. I guess he got up in the morning and started reading all sorts of newspapers and then went on the computer for a time so that he'd be ready for his show (4-6PM, weekdays). Of course, I didn't agree with him on his ideas about Israel (he was a huge supporter of Israel), but as I said, he'd let the other side be heard on the subject, which I suspect is the reason for his "retirement."For instance, he had this one caller named "Eugene from Albany" who was really good and very much anti Israel. He'd call each week (Grant had a one calla week rule) and really lay it on Israel, but in a way that was thought out. So he was always heard out. I believe that is the real reason for Mr. Grants leaving so suddenly. Grant would have been labeled a neo-con on this board, but in that he had no fear of letting all sides be heard, I put him a cut above that.


    Then there is also the point that he's been replaced by the most idiotic liberal garbage you can think of. Liberals absolutely cannot allow any type of freewheeling discussion. That's there Achilles Heel. They know that if they don't have complete control of discourse, it'll get away from them. For instance, yesterday, the entire two hrs. of "discussion" was about whether or not pregnant women should be allowed to park in disabled parking spots in a parking lot. They've got to keep the discussion down to that level and make sure it stays there. Of course, I didn't listen to much of that.

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    How well I remember the sewer of big-time,slickly commercial, heavily institutional, Zionist-dominated Zoo City radio. Bob Grant was a breath of fresh air but in my years as listener (up thru 1992) he was a tyrantabout any conversation that went beyond the usual limits. He certainly deserves credit for being an earlypioneer in appreciably populist, right-of-center talk radio.Time or Newsweek did a major article on this phenomenon with a good color pic of Bob right up there with Rush Windbag and the othergods of the genre.


    We were all extremely frustrated with Bob's Zionist-supremacism (I'm sure he had no choice), and one day a female caller --nobody we knew --somehow got past his screeners long enough to yell "you're a Jew-loving ***** " on the air. Accidents will happen! [img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img]


    Around 1990 we hate a hateful liberal governor, a thugnamed Jim Florio (didn't we, John!). Agiantrally was held in front of the state house -- a stately capitol on a three-block street otherwise filled up with grand Victorian houses-cum-bureaucratic offices........ this in a capitol city, Trenton, that was otherwise a huge slum. The rally was mainly to demand that Florio abandon plans for huge tax hikes. (Or to punish him for them?)


    As we (New Jersey Populist Party, Hands Across New Jersey etc.) were milling about socializing before the appointed hour, my associate John L. Kucek introduced me to a quiet, ordinary-looking guy at the scene -- Bob Grant. He was not at all wound up or full of himself, quite the contrary...... but when he got up to make his speech he was Bob Grant. He played the crowd like a tromboneand they were instantly in his power -- rightly so, because his speech was 101% grassroots righteous rage.


    What a thrill to see a manswing into action this way who did know what a microphone and a platform was for -- in stark contrast to ourdeadly script-reading politicians. I guess Grant was one of the first people I'd ever seen give a political speech of any kind without notes or a script. Bo Gritz was another one notelessly riveting speaker. It's just another way in which the phony Demopublican world can't hold a candle to the real one.


    Another time we had a huge gun-rights rally, and our cause was helped that day by something on the front page of the non-daily press in Trenton at that moment:a few days previously, a little old black woman had shot dead an intruder into her ghetto hovel in the city. The papers showed a picture of her gleefully holding up the weapon. [img]smileys/smiley1.gif[/img]


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    Linked today at ANU.ORG (thanks, Don). Everybody remember this Forum when your young person is in search of research on a hot subject.


    Internet means end for media barons, says Murdoch

    Rupert Murdoch last night sounded the death knell for the era of the media baron, comparing today's internet pioneers with explorers such as Christopher Columbus and John Cabot and hailing the arrival of a "second great age of discovery".
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    The News Corp media magnate nurtures a long-held distaste for "the establishment" but last night confided to one of the few clubs to which he does belong - The Worshipful Company of Stationers and Newspaper Makers - that he may be among the last of a dying breed.


    "Power is moving away from the old elite in our industry - the editors, the chief executives and, let's face it, the proprietors," said Mr Murdoch, having flown into London from New York after celebrating his 75th birthday on Saturday...............
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    "It is difficult, indeed dangerous, to underestimate the huge changes this revolution will bring or the power of developing technologies to build and destroy - not just companies but whole countries."...............


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    The powers that be are getting worried! At this point, the people who get their news from alternative sources appears to still be small but growing, but there are so many small outlets on the internet no one can really know how many people are getting uncensored news. The internet is a major threat to the powers that be one that in time will try to regular so uncensored news is not published but considering how incompetent the government is and how competent the politically incorrect are they will likely have as much success as the governments of Europe who try to prevent the truth of World War II and other politically incorrect matters from being reported.

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    Right on! I've been saying for a long time that the internet was as major a historical event as the printing press, and it seems some very rich-and-famous people agree. It's not often that we get an unvarnished, non-rigged, straight out statement of opinion as Mr. Murdoch's on this matter, but happening more and more.


    Of course there's the very real danger that our enemies will take over the net in this country as they have in most others and put an end to our joyride...... but let's say they do. What's to stop us from forming our own internet -- say, all the right-of-center groups together, or all the sites that love free speech and resent having a crackdown on it? The non-pornographic ones, that is.


    Seems to me that as long as you're free to do whatever you please with your phone line, it should be easy. Maybe lots of people in the "main" internet we'd be leaving behind would set up a clone site on the new one(s) as well, leaving the censors and thought police as frustrated and stultified as ever. [img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img]


    Feedback please!


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    This (thanks, Gregg) is credited to LewRockwell.com but I can't find it anywhere on line. I don't profess to completely understand this news, but it sounds like it great potential for our purposes. Thoughts! Comments! Please!
    Sorry, Howard Stern – Good-bye TIVO<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><O:P></O:P>
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    Over the next ten to twenty years there will be a revolution in broadcasting so drastic that I believe TV sets will virtually disappear in American homes within the next 25 years. The in-home AM/FM radio is already going the way of the 1950's short-wave, and within 15 years will become a curiosity.<O:P></O:P>
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    After being slapped with several serious fines amounting to over $2.5 million dollars over the last ten years for profanity from the Nanny state under the guise of the FCC, Howard Stern is boasting that he will take his act to the future of radio broadcasting: Satellite radio and move to Sirius Satellite Radio beginning in January of 2006. Sirius is going to pay Howard Stern $500 million dollars over the span of five years. Great deal for Howard Stern? Most definitely. Good deal for Sirius Satellite Radio? Well, desperate people will do desperate things. But most of you folks already know this story. It's what Howard doesn't know (and that includes most people) that's going to hurt. The future of broadcasting is definitely not in satellites.<O:P></O:P>
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    I'm guessing that most folks are completely unaware of a new product that is about to be sold on the Japanese market in April of 2005. It is called HDD DVD. That would translate into "Hard drive disk, digital video disk." At first glance, this might look a bit like TIVO – a popular hard disk recorder in use in the United States – but HDD DVD is much more – or much less – depending on how you look at it. HDD DVD will allow you to record programs, sports events, movies, etc., and cut your own re-write-able DVD’s for storage. Not only that, HDD DVD will not have a monthly charge like TIVO does and the units will sell for approximately the same price. With TIVO charging about $12 per month for use of their product, it is easy to see how TIVO will go the way of the Beta video once HDD DVD comes on the market.<O:P></O:P>
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    Besides HDD DVD completely revolutionizing the mass media as we know it today, it most certainly will bankrupt many satellite broadcasters and possibly TIVO – unless those folks have something up their sleeves. And it doesn't matter if we are talking about satellite radio, satellite TV, cable, FM radio, or even multi-media TV and radio conglomerates such as Clear Channel. They all have a decidedly dim future. And there's not a thing they can do about it.<O:P></O:P>
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    Besides wrecking the mass media, HDD DVD is a device that will also make games like Play-station obsolete. So most parents and intelligent people have more than one reason to cheer.<O:P></O:P>
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    How does HDD DVD work? From what I have read and seen, the HDD DVD is basically a computer hard drive system coupled with a DVD RWR (Read, write, re-write) player. The unit is merely switched on in the morning – no programming necessary – when you are heading out for work. When you return home, an on-screen menu will show you exactly what was recorded and at what times. The menu listing will allow you to click a button to immediately view only what you want to view and in what order – as easily as choosing a track on a CD. Television and radio commercials, or entire sections of programs, can be automatically deleted. I'm not talking technology that will be outrageously expensive either. Through some investigation, I found that Wal-Mart will be offering units at $299 dollars by this Christmas in the <ST1:COUNTRY-REGI&#111;N><ST1:PLACE>United States</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGI&#111;N>. Perhaps $99 dollars by Christmas 2006?<O:P></O:P>
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    In <ST1:COUNTRY-REGI&#111;N><ST1:PLACE>Japan</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGI&#111;N>, all the satellite TV stations – as well as FM stations – have all begun to hit the panic buttons. If the viewer can shuffle playback so easily, thereby cutting out all commercial time, then for what purpose would sponsors pay exorbitant amounts of money to run advertisements? They wouldn't would they? The higher-ups at the satellite TV stations I work at all see the writing on the wall as clear as day: Do something drastic now or go down on a sinking ship. I've been voting for drastic measures.<O:P></O:P>
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    For the FM radio stations, things look even worse. Many new cars are coming out in <ST1:COUNTRY-REGI&#111;N><ST1:PLACE>Japan</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGI&#111;N> that do not even have FM radio tuners in them. And why should they? The cars are all equipped with GPS and are soon to be Internet compatible. Most can already plug into radio via cell-phone. And the cell-phone providers are not lining themselves up with FM radio providers. They are setting up themselves with Broad-band and Internet stations. The AM stations’ saving grace will be the traffic reports – but even that is "iffy" as GPS can do the same thing.<O:P></O:P>
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    Recent surveys have shown that more and more people are gathering their news from the Internet. Younger people have no problem with this at all. The older generation who has the out-dated (and wasteful) habit of feeling like they need to read a newspaper or watch TV news will not change course. You cannot teach an old dog new tricks. But, this older generation, unfortunately, will be gone soon enough. And when they are, and the subscription numbers of newspapers hit rock bottom; the TV news viewer-ship continues to erode (and it has been eroding for the last 20 years across the board); and the conglomerates are no longer capable of justifying to sponsors spending millions on ads that no one sees, the entire mass media set-up we have been used to for the last 50 years will come crashing down. This is the assumption that TIVO has been working on, somewhat successfully, over these last five years. The problem for TIVO now is: With HDD DVD coming on the market, who needs to pay a monthly subscription to TIVO? I suspect that if you own TIVO stock, you had better sell now. Heck, think about it, any stock in any Big Media is a sure loser.<O:P></O:P>
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    We now have Internet radio. I work in the music business. It is common knowledge among everyone in my field, that young people who want to hear new music, listen to Internet radio. No one listens to FM anymore. FM radio is beyond repair to the younger crowd as it has a very unfashionable and worthless image. The Internet radio stations are exciting and they are booming. It's just a matter of time, before Internet radio destroys FM radio for music lovers, be they Classical, Jazz, or even Country music, Rock, or Hip Hop fans. And it won't matter if we are talking about in the home or in the car.<O:P></O:P>
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    In <ST1:COUNTRY-REGI&#111;N><ST1:PLACE>Japan</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGI&#111;N>, just about all the cellular phone companies are launching their own Internet accessible radio networks. Who needs to buy a $500 to $1200 dollar AM/FM CD player for the car when you can just plug your cell phone into your in-car CD/DVD player and be able to access literally thousands crystal clear Internet stations as well as down-loadable music from the Internet?<O:P></O:P>
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    And, from what I understand, Internet TV is just around the corner. In fact, several business associates of mine are contemplating starting the worlds first 24-hour-a-day Internet TV News Network. How do they make money from it? Now that's the $64 million dollar question. But I can see making more money from that in twenty years than I can from how the traditional TV stations do it. The traditional stations are dinosaurs and most of them don't even know it yet.<O:P></O:P>
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    Very soon, people won't need an AM/FM radio receiver. They won't need a TV screen. Newspapers are already on their last legs. Everyone already has a computer – No, everyone needs a computer. The computer will be able to do them all in one place. And back to satellite radio? Are you kidding, Howard Stern? You don't think that people are going to go out and actually spend a few hundred dollars to buy a satellite dish and tuner, plus pay monthly subscription fees, when they can most likely get your show pirated over the Internet for free do you?<O:P></O:P>
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    The Internet is the key. Internet news is destroying the newspapers, and helping Big Media TV news destroy itself. Internet radio is here. Internet TV is just around the corner. HDD DVD is coming this year. And the beautiful part? No sponsors, no fees, no commercials. Some smart person is going to come up with, in short order, a revolutionary way to advertise too, and then it will be game over for Big Media.<O:P></O:P>
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    So, Howard Stern, congrats on the $500 million from Sirius Satellite Radio.... Try to get the money up-front. And if you can, run...and don't look back.<O:P></O:P>
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    Mike (in <ST1:CITY><ST1:PLACE>Tokyo</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY>) <ST1:CITY><ST1:PLACE>Rogers</ST1:PLACE></ST1:CITY> [send him mail] was born and raised in the <ST1:COUNTRY-REGI&#111;N><ST1:PLACE>USA</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGI&#111;N> and moved to <ST1:COUNTRY-REGI&#111;N><ST1:PLACE>Japan</ST1:PLACE></ST1:COUNTRY-REGI&#111;N> in 1984. He has worked as an independent writer, producer, and personality in the mass media for nearly 30 years.<O:P></O:P>
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    Technology is changing many things and exactly how things change
    can not be predicted because of the sudden unexpected new
    technologies. Basically, it appears that the article is talking about
    delivering video and sounds files via the Internet. Basically TV and
    radio stations on line, which would mean that anyone could set up their
    own TV or radio station and broadcast to the world. Bandwidth and the
    speed connection would have to be increased but easily done. The powers
    that be will try to regulate it to death by passing new laws, and using
    old ones against the new media but most likely they will fail. The
    establishment would hate people giving uncensored news and shows to the
    public that they didn’t control. It means we are in for interesting
    times.

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    Is there any chance that there will be so much of it in sheer volume of stuff and numbers of webcasters that it will be impossible for the fedgoons to do anything about it? Sure sounds like it from the article. Yeehaw!


    I always wonder about the factor of people who can't keep up technologically though. People without TVs are extremely rare today, but I fear a morehigher percentage of the population is simply not able to take up computer culture (financially or technically) -- and never will be.


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    Government would probably give computers to the technology-challenged minorities who would then would sell them or break them and demand new ones. Also, Affirmed Action would require that the technology-challenged minorities be the ones who be trying to track down the technology savvy dissident. The few Whites that get hired will be working fulltime plus to fix the problems that the Affirmed Action hires create. They won’t have any time to suppress the Internet.[img]smileys/smiley36.gif[/img]

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    Here's another beautiful report on how shaky the whole media-government complex is. How can this evil mob take us to war with Iraq, getting a failing grade from the sheeple in everything else at the moment (most of all, basic honesty)? They can't do so, but at the same time they can't not do so since otherwise they'd have to retract another Big Lie!


    Jan Frel: 'Ahmadinejad: Not Hitler after all'


    Another failed attempt by the neocons to compare Iran to Nazi Germany suggests the public won't stand for another propaganda campaign meant to drum up war fever.


    The readers who wrote in immediately savaged the article, its author and the National Post's facile, transparent attempt to resurrect the Wermacht. No one took the bait, and the disbelief quickly spread across the internet.

    The swift rejection of this attempt to turn Iran into the Fourth Reich incarnate is surely a natural reflex of a public still smarting from the ordeal of the Iraq PR campaign. Another explanation for the rapid response is the massive growth in streams of alternative information available to the public -- organizations like Media Matters and PR Watch literally make their living exposing lies and propaganda as they are released through media and government channels.

    And then there are the bloggers who can singlehandedly get to the bottom of large-scale lies. In the case of the National Post story, blogger Taylor Marsh phoned the Simon Wiesenthal Center, which had confirmed Taheri's story after the report came out. A researcher Marsh spoke with on Friday "was eager to confirm it, using words like 'throwback' to the Nazi era, 'very true' and 'very scary.' ... "

    Within the day, the story was repudiated. Middle East expert Juan Cole revealed that there was no evidence of any such anti-Jewish Iranian legislation, citing a report in the Australian press that quoted an Iranian politician denying its existence. Later in the day, Marsh again called the Wiesenthal Center and got the runaround. Looking at a fax the researcher sent her as background, Marsh discovered that the National Post had suggested to a rabbi at the Wiesenthal Center that it was important to "draw attention" to Taheri's report, exposing the scaffolding behind the propaganda effort.

    Marsh concluded with the pointed question, "Who got the Simon Wiesenthal Center to stick their necks out on this bogus Iranian badge story, risking their very reputation and funding credibility, and who had what to gain by doing so?"...................


    http://www.smirkingchimp.com/article.php?sid=26228&amp;mode= nested&amp;order=0

    [Darn! they've made the chimp/Bush picture uncopiable, but here's a cool sightthat a search for it brings up. It's unfortunate that people feel this way about ameriKa, but yet more unfortunate that ameriKa's behavior is the reason they do. Would this display be permitted in the Untied States today?



    About 10,000 protesters rallied on Sunday as they demanded U.S. withdraw its troops from South Korea (news - web sites), that South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun cancel planned troop dispatch to Iraq (news - web sites) and for Roh to resign. (Lee Jae-Won/Reuters)

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    http://www.rense.com/general72/dreams.htm


    An article about the U.S. Government and businesses conspiring to pass "’NEW Telecommunications Act’ “ in order to allow mainstream corporations to continue to dominate the news especially video media. Odds are that the geeks will figure ways around their stumbling blocks if it passes but it would slow down the Alternative media a little. The powers that be are getting more and more desperate to hold on to power and the harder they try to the more they fail!



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    A most interesting conversation took place on my trip to VA last week. My brother-in-law ("B") is a brilliant guy with a net-based professional life who's been quite excited about Craigslist for some time -- a site that consists of free classified ads and much much more. My cousin ("C") is a writer for a large daily newspaper.


    We talked awhile about how daily newspapers are struggling these days, and then........


    B: Craigslist has gotten even bigger since last we talked -- it's getting something like 750,000 hits a day!


    C, grimly: We've heard about that.


    B: It's having a huge impact on newspapers around the country by offering people a way to buy and sell totally free of charge. The daily in my area now has a fraction of the classifieds it used to, freely interspersed with "your ad here" notices as fillers!


    /\/.: So is your paper being damaged by it too, C?


    C: We've lost a lot of revenue -- ads are a shadow of what they once were -- and layoffs are going to begin soon.


    /\/. Say, how much of a paper's budget comes from classifieds anyway?


    C: About forty percent...............................


    Craigslist was just in the news -- it wasmentioned in this article about the vital issue of "net neutrality". Regrettably can't give you that part of the article, not being a WSJ subscriber.


    http://enrevanche.blogspot.com/2006/...-net-battle-fo r-control-of-web.html


    Neutral Net: A Battle for Control of the Web
    <BLOCKQUOTE>Next week, the Senate will jump into a heated debate that divides the titans of the new economy -- companies like Google, Microsoft, and Yahoo -- from those of the old -- AT&amp;T, Verizon, Time Warner and Comcast.

    The issue is 'net neutrality,' and it has to do with how much control the companies that build the Internet pipelines -- mostly telephone and cable companies -- should have over the content that runs through those pipelines and whether they can force content providers to pay for the privilege.

    The Internet is set up so that users can use any legal Web site or application, and all Internet traffic is treated equally. But downloading a two-hour video eats up far more bandwidth, or space on the Internet pipeline, than an email.Telephone and cable companies have suggested they may start charging fees to Internet-content companies, like Google, whose content is eating up large portions of their bandwidth. Companies that refuse to pay might find their content moving at slower speeds over the pipeline than the content of those that do pay...</BLOCKQUOTE>


    An excellent, thoughtful treatment of an issue that isn't nearly as black-and-white as many people who are squawking about it (from both sides) in the blogosphere make it out to be.

    The telcos and cable companies still know their way around Washington better than the high-tech guys do, although Microsoft, Google and similar companies have come up to speed on that in recent years.


    http://users2.wsj.com/lmda/do/checkL...j-users2&amp;u rl=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB11511 1284505289 701.html%3Fmod%3Dhps_us_my_industries



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    I wonder sometimes if the propaganda emanating from the government-controlled corporate media is becoming more and more simplistic and cartoonish, orif it isjust so easy to see through the longer one becomes aware of how the System works. Maybe it's a combination of both.


    I mean, this demonization of North Korean leader Kim Jong Il is so over the top. Watched the ABC Evening News tonight, with the insufferable Diane Sawyer substituting for the insufferable Charles Gibson. Sawyer stated that Kim Jong Il had launched 8 missiles over the past two days. Not North Korea, but Kim Jong Il. Does W. personally launch American cruise missiles?


    That report and several others over the next half hour were filled with ridicule of the North Korean leader, including smirking remarks about the lifts he wears in his shoes, his haircut, and other juvenalia along with the requisite talk about him being a "madman."


    It's not sufficient that North Korea is perceived as a threat by Washington and its media;as with all other nations that happen to be on the Empire's enemies list at any given time, it's always personalized with the offending country's leader. They have to be mocked and dehumanized. Only a "madman" or a "nut" would strive so hard to keep his country from willingly being absorbed into the NWO. His motives can only be evil, or crazy.


    Reading the daily newspapers and watching the corporate newshas become almostcomical.The disconnect between the reality of everyday life and what is presentedby the system as reality seems to grow larger by the day.I wonder if it was like this near the end of the USSR and other empires.
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    The comical element of mainstream propaganda news indeed has become overwhelming. Especially so is the adolescent mocking of other country's heads of state. It is reminiscent of a scene from "Das Boot" ...


    ... where the crew of the German U-96 is in transit towards an area of heavy action. The crew and officers somberly anticipate the brutal battles to come soon. They are riding on the surface, and within HF radio range of Germany, and Deutschland radio is on the air. The program playing is Goebbels and several other Reich leaders openly ridiculing Churchill and MacKenzie and other enemy country's leaders. The audience is laughing wildly at the insults brought forward by Goebbels and friends.


    But nobody on Das Boot is laughing. The XO groans that Reich leadership is "out of touch" and in denial about their hopeless position in the war in late 1942. The Captain hears a joke about whatthe "coward" that is the British PM and other senior Brits. He remarks that "For a bunch of cowards, they are certainly putting up a damned good fight."


    Whenever Ihear a TV anchor or an NPR weenie or a Wolf Blitzer babble away, and especially when it's a Tony Snow or other official "spokesperson" of The Empire, I hear instead the senile, psychotic ramblings of the Reich's propaganda ministry in the face of certain defeatEdited by: Realgeorge

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    More on the attempt by Congress and businesses to end "Network Neutrality"


    http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060828/internet_bill (The Nationalist News service posted this link to the article from the Common Dreams web site. http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/...file=/views06/ 0819-23.htm) Primary object of this push appears to be so that businesses can make enormous profits with a side effect being that the alternative media push into the multimedia online would be slowed down. But it will not stop the alternative media or the nationalist movement. Work arounds will quickly be discovered and businesses will demand more laws to suppress those and then new work arounds will be devised and on and on it will go until the time of the nationalist is at hand.


    I once read I believe it was in a speech that had been print in a publication the term "government media continuum" I would argue that for this term to be "government Corporate continuum" as it would be more complete in the sense of the merger of big government and big business that has been taking place in the USA over the last about 150 years. It has been a slow process but it is almost complete and where one ends and the other begins nobody will soon know.


    The object of government and law is viewed, by internationalist, as the assisting of business in the maximizing of profits. Copyright, patent, bankruptcy, regulations, trademarks, etc., once ways to encourage fair trade and assist the people in general have become viewed as methods of increasing profits for big businesses while suppressing the individual and small and medium size businesses. Copyright and patents once were for encouraging productive and ingenuity have become today a way to suppress those very qualities via false claims, theft, fraud, and a general injustice of the courts in support of big business





    International socialism rather it is called "capitalism" or "communism" is the merger of business and government into one entity. The base of international socialism is the love of money and as the Bible says "For the love of money is the root of all evil; which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows." (I Timothy 6:10). From internationalism come multiculturalism, support and encouragement of perversion, injustice, and "many" other "sorrows". Whereas, the base of Nationalism is love of ones people.



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    <H1 align=center>The Pro-War Media's </H1>
    <H1 align=center>Re-Positioning Problem</H1>
    by Gary North



    POSTED TODAY: http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north475.html


    ..............When a true believer switches sides on a major belief, he does not want to hear people spouting the belief that he has now abandoned. He wants to hear something else. Today, millions of Americans are abandoning faith in Bush's wars.


    If those media broadcasters that openly defend this abandoned belief do not change, they will lose market share. People will simply stop listening. But, as I will show, they dare not change.


    Johnny-one note broadcasters are especially vulnerable to changing audience tastes. They cannot change their note to match their audience's new preferences. This is bad for advertising revenues.


    Because the Iraq war is the dominant issue politically today, the outwardly pro-Republican media cannot avoid it. Like the bums of the month in Joe Louis' era, they can run, but they cannot hide.


    One by one, listeners will tune out. Maybe they will turn to satellite radio's ad-free niche-audience music. They will not tune in to Air America Radio, let alone All Things Considered. They will just stop listening to politics. They will turn off Rush Limbaugh's self-proclaimed EIB (Excellence in Broadcasting) network.


    Day by day, the EIB network is rolling over IEDs.


    Improvised explosive devices (IEDs) are cheap, low-tech, and unstoppable. They are not going to go away. Instead, we are going to go away.


    Bush's wars are being visibly lost in the battlefield that counts: public opinion polls. This points to the next great battle: voting booths in November. If the Democrats re-capture the House, the investigations will begin. The Democrats will use the investigative power of Congress the way insurgents use IEDs.


    Bush and his subordinates have been confined for over a year to giving their pro-war rally speeches inside American Legion halls, military bases, and the $1,000-per-plate rubber chicken Republican Party lecture circuit. They dare not appear in public to give their "stay the course" message. This was what Lyndon Johnson faced in 1967. He was gone in 1969...............


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    European Union trying to regulate video on the Internet like TV stations.


    http://www.infowars.net/articles/Oct...171006Internet. htm

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    Something called Digital Restriction Management (DRM) in the name of restricting unauthorized reproduction of copyrighted materials companies are demanding that computers be monitored. And activity of the users reported. First the restrictions come from private companies using monopolies powers to get people to agree for they can only agree or do without but in time the companies will demand no alternative be allowed by law. First via the private corporations and than via the government with the government-corporate continuum where the government stops and the corporations begin no one knows.


    Basically, these companies are going for complete control of all information so that they can charge for everything and the government-corporate continuum wants complete control over the exchange of information. Not only what they create but everything. How long before some company will try and claim that anything written, record, etc. on their machine should be their "intellectual property". I have even heard of dreams of corporations of having all information stored on central mainframes-- no local hard drives of storage media. Basically, ever thing store so the government-corporate continuum can keep a check for politically incorrect thinking that could be bad for profits.


    Let’s face it these mega-corporations are the worst thieves of "intellectual property" around. Numerous lawsuits and verdicts over the years for not paying artist royalties, outright stealing songs, scripts, books, ideas, you name it they steal it. The Jewish movie interest was moved to California so that they could get out of paying their legal obligations. No the mass murder can not demand that the Jaywalker be punish while they go free.


    In the end the Old World Order of greed is breaking and dying and what the Natural Order will replace it. What we see today are the last breaths of the Old World Order but in it last gasps it will cause many problems for people. Until the Natural Order assumes its proper place trouble will issue forth form the dying Old World Order.














    http://www.defectivebydesign.org/what_is_drm


    On a sideline Thailand has put their people ahead of foreign corporations profits.





    http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...C20867%2C21140 548-1702%2C00.html

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    Joseph Farah's new book further promouces doom on the "mainstream" media by its very title, Stop the Presses: the inside story of the new media revolution.</span>

    http://shop.wnd.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=2040



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