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    Don't know if you saw all this brilliant, leisurelytreatment of Ronald Reagan in the pages of our valiant sister publication THE FIRST FREEDOM. They've just posted it at the FF site but I feel it deserves a permanent home here as well. Bravo, Greg! Bravo, Olaf!

    THE REAGAN SACRED COW
    By Greg Kay
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    Sometimes – well, to be honest, usually – it’s the best intentioned people that really set me off. Inevitably, I suppose, since I’ve little patience with Orwellian double-think, less for those practicing it, and none for the ones who should know better: namely White Nationalists, Southerners among us in particular, who worship Ronald Reagan as… as one of them referred to him… “a Godsend.” I’ve got news for these folks; God sends a lot of things, including plague, flood, fire…and tyranny.
    Reagan was a likable guy, no question about it: classy, charismatic, usually doing his lines with great aplomb. However, that goes with the territory of a trained, career showman. Remember, an actor is one who makes a living playing convincing parts as a thing he’s not. Around here we call that a b.s. artist (usually a hawker making some sales pitch), and no doubt Ronald Wilson Reagan was good at it. Not only did he play his part as “a conservative,” but, despite creeping Alzheimer’s, recited the lines his handlers gave him very well. People tend to forget that he was neither a conservative nor writing the script.
    For those of you frothing at the mouth right now because you liked the things he said, let’s step back and take a look at what he and that administration actually did – before, during, and after his tenure as President of the United States.
    First, let’s do a little review. After all, under his watch, corporate power rose and began to grow into the background check and this privacy-invading, crazy, working society that exists today. So it’s only fair.
    Reagan’s “conservatism” started with his strong support for Franklin D. Roosevelt. Yes, he admired the man who not only gave us the New Deal, but did everything short of peeing in Emperor Hirohito’s best rice bowl to provoke a response allowing him to break his campaign promise and get us into World War II. He loved FDR so much as to quote him in his acceptance speech at the Republican convention.
    Due to what was reported as poor eyesight, Reagan himself spent that war in the Signal Corps shooting propaganda films in Hollywood. As this didn’t sound heroic enough, the first known Reagan fantasy appeared. He began making the claim – and stuck with it throughout his political career – that, immediately after the defeat of Germany, he visited Buchenwald to shoot a film about the concentration camp. He was still saying that as President. It must have been an out-of-body experience, though, because he never left the country during that period, remaining the entire time in California.
    Which wasn’t the last lie by Reagan; he told some whoppers to get himself elected. He would reduce the size of government, end such spending and deficits as started by the Carter Administration, eliminate the Departments of Energy and Education. Instead, during his time in office we saw those promises translated into massive raises in government spending as an even greater percentage of the GNP. After Carter’s last year in office, 1980, Federal spending rose from $591 billion to $1.064 trillion in 1988, Saint Reagan’s last year, and the deficit from $73.8 billion to $155 billion. Oh, and the Departments of Energy and Education? He didn’t eliminate either; strengthened them both.
    One place Reagan did cut government legislation favored the Savings and Loan Industry. The result is still with us today, in scandal after scandal, as the heads of these companies get rich while running them into bankruptcy, taxpayers holding the bag while they hold the keys to a new Porsche.
    Because of this and similar actions, the neo-cons claim Reagan was a great friend to business. Hardly; and, just as Bill Clinton “did not have sex with that woman,” it all depends on how you define “business.” Corporations are not business. Business is the local drug store, bakery, the unaffiliated bank. Business is responsible individuals. Corporations are conspiracies designed to shield the conspiring groups of individuals from the potential civil consequences of their actions, and provide them rights and immunities unavailable to individuals. The Gipper might’ve been a friend to the giant corporations (He was quoted as saying so behind the scenes during his 1980 campaign for the Republican nomination: “What have they got against me? I support big oil. I support big business.”) that have turned America into a quasi-feudal society, but he was no help to real, individualistic businesses, nor friend of the working class. For the first time, “unemployment” began to drop not because fewer people were out of work, but rather, having exhausted their benefits, they were no longer counted as unemployed.
    But Reagan also promised to cut taxes and he did… Didn’t he? In a word: “No.” With some more Clintonesque shuffling, he “redefined” taxes before sliding them around the table in the old shell game. He officially lowered the take, then eliminated deductions and changed the brackets so that more people suddenly found themselves paying a greater percentage of their income to the Federal Government. He also raised Social Security taxes. In 1982 he oversaw the largest tax increase in U.S. history back then, to the tune of $100 billion. Which shouldn’t be too surprising, though. After all, he had done exactly the same thing as Governor of California. There, he ran on a campaign promise not to raise taxes, and then proceeded to do so in short order.
    Lest we forget, it was also ol’ freedom loving Ronnie who laid the groundwork for this later loss of so many of our rights under Clinton and Bush II, in the name of a “War on Terrorism.” Reagan set the stage for that erosion with his “War on Drugs,” a situation demanding that we surrender our traditional liberties so the government can protect us from the evils of dope dealers (at least ostensibly; see next section). I think about that whenever yielding samples of my body fluids to the company pee police in order to get or keep a job; or when I read about money, cars and even homes being confiscated (read: stolen) by police with no charges ever being filed. Clinton simply took that same strategy and went further by hanging a right-wing face on it following the Oklahoma City Bombing, and copycat Dubya did likewise with an Arab mask plus still more refinements after 9-11. We may thank Ronald Reagan for today’s lost liberties; he planted what has grown like kudzu, strangling the landscape.
    Of course, you can tell a lot about a person by his friends, they say. Well, who were Reagan’s buddies on the world stage? Let’s see; he continued to back a certain Communist in Cambodia by the name of Pol Pot during the latter’s war against those other Communists in Vietnam. (If you don’t know who Pol Pot is, he’s considered one of the greatest butchers of humanity in all time. Look him up in the encyclopedia, or do a web search.) The Gipper also aided Saddam Hussein when Iraq was at war with Iran. You remember Saddam, don’t you? He’s been in the news quite a bit lately; we claim he is a monstrous war criminal. Another of Reagan’s old pals is a household word, too: Osama Bin Laden, who received help and training from the Reagan Administration’s CIA during our proxy war against the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan. Of course, he wasn’t the only one; the U.S. also aided the region’s opium lords – right in the middle of Reagan’s “War on Drugs” – who were growing and sometimes refining the stuff that was being shipped as heroin into Europe and the United States. They were opposed to the Soviets, don’t you know; so what’s a few addicts and resulting crimes when fighting a larger-scale War on Whatever? In fact, the Reagan CIA seemed to have an affinity for drug runners; consider the Contras of Nicaragua, who supported much of their efforts against the Sandinistas by trading in cocaine, which was going directly into the United States with at least the tolerance, reportedly outright support and assistance, of American intelligence. That particular plan was also underwritten by yet another Reagan ally, Panamanian President Manuel Noriega, who now sits in Federal prison as… you guessed it… a drug lord. Of course, like Saddam and Osama, only after he was no longer useful.
    Ronald Reagan also invaded sovereign States Grenada and Lebanon. He claimed the need to “rescue” American medical students in the first country (who had never requested help) and, in the heat of saving them, seized the entire nation. This was lauded as a heroic action in the press, despite the fact that Grenada had no navy, air force, or even an army outside a token Cuban force there by invitation of the legitimate government. In the second case, he invaded Lebanon with the intent of helping Israel’s proxy army – the Lebanese Christian militias. That resulted in the deaths of U.S. Marines by the hundreds, also thousands of Lebanese, and finally the 9-11 attacks. This last Reagan legacy came back to haunt us because, as Osama Bin Laden has stated: while watching the U.S. Navy pounding those helpless Lebanese cities into rubble from offshore, he first conceived the idea of making America pay in kind for its actions.
    (Ronald Reagan was also never one to let a little matter like the law interfere with his agenda, either. His adventures in Latin America were in direct violation of the Bolan Amendment, while his entry into Lebanon was equally illegal under the War Powers Act, both passed into law by Congress.)
    As previously mentioned, he got us involved in the Iran-Iraq War, not only logistically but directly. He used the United States Navy to protect Iraqi oil tankers in the Persian Gulf despite the fact that the Iraqis accidentally mistook the USS Stark for an Iranian ship and sank it. His administration at first tried blaming the Iranians for that action, and used the resulting heightened alert as an excuse when “our” Navy blasted a fully loaded civilian Iranian airliner out of the sky and into the Persian Gulf, leaving no survivors.
    Reagan also openly attempted to cold-bloodedly assassinate a foreign head of state via aerial bombing, namely Libyan leader Khadafy. Missing him, they instead killed his nine-year-old little girl; but her tragic death was dismissed by the press, as she was “only his adopted daughter.”
    Of course, Reagan did have one real friend in the Middle East: Israel. Following his thorough Judafication in Hollywood, he and his administration were among the most fanatically devoted to all things Jewish as had ever occupied the White House. No matter what Israel did, it was okay. When the United Nations dared to complain about Israeli actions, Reagan’s UN Ambassador Jean Kirkpatrick informed them that, “The United States walks out with Israel.” I don’t know about that, but… we certainly walked into the Middle East with them.
    Israel and several other countries with atrocious human rights records received more foreign aid under Reagan than ever. Banks were encouraged to make “loans” to regimes that would never repay, and the U.S. bailed them out with our tax dollars.
    Conservatives – the real ones, that is – believe in our right (some might even call it an obligation) to keep and bear arms. Ronald Reagan was honored repeatedly by the National Rifle Association as a hero, and by Guns & Ammo as “the gun owners’ champion,” primarily for his support of the McClure-Volkmer Act that rolled back a few provisions of the 1968 Gun Control Act – this while “coincidentally” severely limiting licensed machine gun transfers in the process; good overall perhaps, but a drop in the bucket when, later, he got a chance to express his real feelings on the subject. During his term, high-penetration bullets, state of the art composite handguns and the manufacture and licensed transfer of new machine guns were banned: all three items potentially of much more use if – when – it finally hits the fan. In the early 1990s he climbed in bed with Sarah Brady to lobby for passing one of the two most hated laws by those who cherish freedom, namely the Brady Bill; and he afterwards lobbied for passage of the second one: the assault weapons ban. After leaving office, he lobbied intensely for these two pieces of legislation, knowing that respectable conservatives would cast the blame on his bumbling successor, Bill Clinton, and that nothing he did would ever stick in their minds when it came to old “Teflon Ron.” If this is the “gun owners’ champion,” well, with friends like that, who needs enemas?
    And what about race? In the aftermath of the Watts Riots, then-Governor Reagan decided to “understand” what caused those California Negroes to rob, rape, pillage, and burn through a substantial area, and, in the same way a cowardly French President is now doing with the Muslims, blamed it not on their inherent savage lawlessness, but discrimination and lack of economic opportunity. Thus, even while mouthing words against “affirmative action,” he put pressure on the State employment agencies to implement a program that had almost exactly the same result. His autobiography brags of him having “devoted a lot of time to bringing more Blacks and Hispanics into important jobs in the state government,” and “appointed more Blacks to executive and policy-making positions in State government than all the previous governors of California put together.” He was also responsible in large part for the institution of bilingual education in that State through an attempt to gain political ground in the barrios.
    But at least Reagan was a good Christian man! I’m sure he was; that’s why he and his second wife Nancy were ardent astrologers, despite such practices being expressly forbidden by the Bible.
    Finally, here’s Reagan’s real legacy to the South, in the words of the great Southern author Michael Grissom, from his must-read book, Can the South Survive?
    “Even today, with a majority of Southerners imperfectly informed about their own heritage, mention of the word ‘Reagan’ evokes starry-eyed idol worship among those in the South who choose not to remember that it was Ronald Reagan who gave us the troublesome Martin Luther King holiday, and that it was Ronald Wilson Reagan who not only signed but pushed for extension of the hated Voting Rights Act when it came up for renewal during his first term. He lobbied Congress to extend the federal government’s control over elections in the Deep South States for another twenty-five years. Like some coup-ridden banana republic, those Southern states under its provisions must endure the humiliation of federal poll-watchers who have the same type of authority Republicans gave carpetbag regimes during Reconstruction… Reagan’s policies were tangential with Southern interests only by coincidence. When he had the chance to relieve the South from some of its peculiar persecutions, he was cheerleading for the other side.”
    And there you have it. Ronald Reagan was the same sort of President as had been Abraham Lincoln: at one with all the characteristics of a Bill or Dubya, but who happened to get good press. If that’s the kind of clay Southerners want to cast into heroes, all I can say is, God save the South…from us!
    http://www.gulftel.com/firstfreedom/29.htm
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    Trent Lott clearly belongs in the fake conservative hall of shame. Look at this article (presently linked at ANU.ORG) -- what could be more absolutely repellent?


    How can we not hate such human cockroaches? I confess I do! This is "reform"? How bad could the (real or imaginary) problem be in comparison?
    TRENT LOTT ATTACKS FREE SPEECH


    Sen. Tent Lott, R - Mississippi, sponsored S. 2349 and through political arm-twisting somehow got enough senators to vote for this misguided effort to reform lobbying.
    The legislation has been sent to the House where it is in danger of passing.
    In it’s current form, S. 2349 forces non-profit groups to file quarterly reports to detail their efforts to influence citizens on any issue. It requires a report of any “paid” efforts to communicate with 500 or more citizens.
    They must report such things as creating and placing newspaper and other media ads, publishing newsletters, congressional report cards or other direct mail pieces, interactive web sites, books, magazines, TV, radio, videos, podcasts, sending letters, and more.
    This is not a minor task. The cost in time and money to comply with such reporting is beyond the means of most non-profit groups.............
    http://www.newswithviews.com/Bresnahan/david7.htm
    LATER. Goldwater exposed -- by one who knew him.
    http://www.biblicalexaminer.org/w200...oldwater%20Gir l


    ..............The documentary, "Mr. Conservative, Goldwater on Goldwater" by CC Goldwater dealt quite at length with this issue, interviewing a Goldwater daughter who confessed to having had an illegal abortion when she was young and a Goldwater grandson who is a sodomite. They both praised Sen Goldwater for his open understanding of their situations. Then the documentary went on to play sound bites where Sen. Goldwater had embraced both abortion and sodomy.


    So the question begs to be answered, "How can we have a man who calls himself a conservative be so opposed to the principles of conservativism?" The answer given in the documentary which I believe to be accurate is that abortion, sodomy and moral issues were not political issues in 1964, and so it was very consistent for Sen. Goldwater to oppose the right on moral issues.


    It was Ronald Reagan who brought moral issues into political conservativism, not because of any great conviction on his part, but for political expediency. We know that Reagan did not embrace the moral issues because of conviction by the fact that he never turned his hand the first time to do away with abortion, he had a son who is an open sodomite, and he himself was divorced from his first wife while his second wife aided him in consulting with the witches over governmental policy. Some would argue that his hands were tied and that he could not do anything concerning the moral issues. But he had a tool called the "executive order" which has been used since Abraham Lincoln to do great mischief to the nation, that he failed to use. He could have issued executive order banning abortion and sodomy, but he did not.


    In truth, Ronald Reagan and Barry Goldwater were, in their lives, very similar men and their moral character is very consistent with what the National Republican Party has been since it's beginning with Abraham Lincoln. In fact, all three men were men of base character using religion only when needed for political expediency.


    When the Moral Majority tried to take over the National Republican Party, it was embraced for political expediency, but the Party has been trying to find a way to distance itself from the Christian Right while keeping the voter base loyal to the party. I don't know if it is the political acumen of the Party or the stupidity of the Christian Right or both that has been able to accomplish this purpose, but for the past 26 years, the Christian Right has been the "trumpet section" for the Republican Party while the Republican Party has systematically destroyed whatever was left of our Constitutional Republic and transformed us into a nation of sodomites and baby killers. These people even go so far as to proclaim it our patriotic responsibility to try to enforce a government of sodomites and baby killers on Iraq and any other nation that won't accept it.


    Perhaps the most telling part of the documentary "Mr. Conservative: Goldwater on Goldwater" was the fact that they interviewed a woman named Hillary Rodham Clinton who boasted that she was a "Goldwater Girl" in 1964, and she was very proud of it.


    I could not help but wonder if CC Goldwater was helping to set up Hillary as the "true conservative," the conservative of Barry Goldwater, hoping to drive a wedge between the political conservatives of the Republican Party and the religious conservatives?..................


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    via email -- for what it may be worth:

    <big style="color: rgb(102, 0, 0);">National economies need monetary coordination mechanisms, and that
    is why an integrated world economy needs a common monetary standard...
    But, no national currency will do - only a world currency will work.</big><br style="color: rgb(102, 0, 0);">


    President Ronald Reagan @ the Spring 1983, Economic Summit in
    Williamsburg, Virginia, quoted in The Creature From Jekyll Island.
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    Scronx, thanks for the insight. Reagan was a puppet of the Globalist Elite like those POTUS'es who followed him.

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    Now, here's somebody that disgusts me beyond all telling -- Peggy Noonan. An anglo-celtic princess to look at, she's spent her career making RepubliCON politicians look human. In other words, prettifying the monsters destroying whiteness while preening as an icon of it! She's seen near the beginning of this film talking blithely about the spin process

    Brian Springer - Spin</span>
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...81953466797353 #

    ........and it's divulged that it was she who created GHWB's ultra-nauseating "kinder gentler nation" line. I wouldn't bother posting this except as a reminder to us all of the ultimate usefulness of the above; linked video. Ain't nobody on earth can claim the presidents, Larry King et al aren't shysters after seeing it!

    You folks in particular will find the second half of minute 14 especially ripe.

    But it doesn't offer anywhere near the magnitude of shock and revulsion of the stuff so lightly crooned in the second half of m. 21....... and the buzzword the zombie newsmongers choose to blithely stick on it!!!!</span>

    We're talking ultmate, definite footage here. Blurb:
    <br style="color: rgb(102, 0, 0);">Using the 1992
    presidential election as his springboard, documentary filmmaker Brian
    Springer captures the behind-the-scenes maneuverings of politicians and
    newscasters in the early 1990s. Pat Robertson banters about "homos," Al
    Gore learns how to avoid abortion questions, George Bush talks to Larry
    King about halcyon -- all presuming they're off camera. Composed of
    100% unauthorized satellite footage, Spin is a surreal expose of
    media-constructed reality.</span>

    </span>Warning: contains actual footage of GHWB bleating his "kinder gentler nation" line.</font>


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    Noonan natters again. This is a former Reagan toady!?!?! She sounds like she wants to pat Oh!Bummer's hand and give him a piece of candy!

    She patronizes the readers as she coddles, pets and tut-tuts the Pezident itself. She's a classic blonde traitor and clearly enjoys the role, for which she is no doubt paid handsomely.

    Grrrr, I HATE HER, the PHONY. No, girlie, Americans don't want leaders the sun shines on, we want LEADERS, period -- as you know very well!

    No, stupid, he's not snakebitten (the (the proper verb form) -- he's the king of the vipers.</span></span>

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...70428950457531 3181930072638.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLTopStories
    <h1 style="color: rgb(102, 0, 0);">A Snakebit President
    </h1><h2 style="color: rgb(102, 0, 0);">Americans want leaders on whom the sun shines.</h2>
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    Subject: Brasscheck TV: A blast from the past
    From: Brasscheck TV &lt;news@brasschecktv.com&gt;

    Nelson

    We hear about a potential war with Iran.

    We hear about Middle East terrorists
    who have shadowy ties to the US.

    We hear about oil companies wielding
    incredible extra-legal powers with
    the help of the US government.

    Some roots.

    Video:

    http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/911.html

    - Brasscheck

    P.S. Please share Brasscheck TV
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    That's how we grow. Thanks.
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    http://www.lewrockwell.com/huebert/huebert32.1.html
    <h1 style="color: rgb(102, 0, 0);" align="center"> Reagan:
    No Revolution</font></h1>
    by
    </font>
    </font>
    </font><a href="mailto:jhhuebert@jhhuebert.com" target="_blank">Jacob
    H. Huebert</a>
    </font>

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    Three cheers for the late Mrray Rothbard and to FP. This is a scream of anguish against the phoniness much Libertarianism as it is of CONservative fraud.


    IMHO, it's no mystery why Reagan was so immune to honest evaluation. Theleftwing media did their usual stupid thing of taking somebody already vainly imagined to be right of center and mindlessly shrieking that he was the Hitler to end all Hitlers. This got every Republican jingoist from coast to coast salivating to vote for the Gypper, and of course the cinematic contrast between him and zombie dummacrat Walter Mondale in TV debates was so striking he couldn't help but win.


    NewsLink• Philosophy: Conservatism
    Ronald Reagan: An Autopsy - by Murray N. Rothbard
    02-06-2011 • LewRockwell.com
    I am convinced that the historic function of Ronald Reagan was to co-opt, eviscerate and ultimately destroy the substantial wave of anti-governmental, and quasi-libertarian, sentiment that erupted in the U.S. during the 1970s.
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    Whoa, another media personality is going after Reagan and today's pseudocons at this moment! Jerry Doyle, whose nightly spiel ranges from pitiful to really great, just voiced the thought that is this site's signature line -- "People say `I'm a Reagan conservative. I think if Reagan were president today things would be totally better.' But Reagan wouldn't be a conservative -- Reagan promoted amnesty and raised taxes!"

    Whereupon JD simply dropped into the mix Reagan's actual sound byte -- I don't even remember hearing him chirp it at the time: "I believe in amnesty for anyone who is trying to succeed and really doing it -- even if there was something illegal about their original entry into the country" or words to that effect.

    If Jerry Doyle (dot com) is broadcasting the politically-incorrect difference between conservatism and nationalism -- even without saying this N-word -- it's news.


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    Gee, I hate to add Goldwater here, but since this site is where we rake the muck.... here's some on the supposedlly right-wing J.Edgar Hoover as well:

    CONSERVATIVE CRITICS OF ROBERT WELCH AND THE BIRCH SOCIETY
    http://sites.google.com/site/ernie124102/jbs-4

    Of course, the JBS was jeered at so loudly back then it could have been political suicide to endorse it -- but one would have thought the "conscience of a conservative" would have prevailed even so.

    "sites.google.com" -- an unusual URL. Found it in this fine page on another total scumbucket from hell:

    http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/11...ter-boy-he-is/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nelson4 View Post
    Gee, I hate to add Goldwater here, but since this site is where we rake the muck....
    If it has to be done, then it must Nelson. Add to the list Russell Kirk. I am reading his memoirs The Sword of Imagination and was disappointed that he was gleeful to be picked by Goldwater to launch the initial denunciation of Robert Welch and the JBS in the national Catholic weekly America. The attacks were principally for political expediency in order to advance Goldwater's presidential ambitions.

    Of course what goes around comes around as Kirk would find himself and his adherents purged out of the conservative movement decades later for his failure to give unconditional support to the neoconservative foreign policy establishment's objectives.

    “Purging” Russell Kirk from The Classic Liberal
    http://the-classic-liberal.com/purging-russell-kirk/

    "Russell Kirk, a genuine American conservative, had more wisdom in a given brain cell than the entire neocon think-tank complex combined. Yet, today's "conservatives" hate Russell Kirk (that is, if they even know who he is)."

    "In Purging Paul, YAF Purges Kirk, Meyer, and Its Own History" by Jack Hunter
    http://www.theamericanconservative.c...s-own-history/
    Last edited by gardenstate; 11-18-2011 at 09:30 PM.

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    http://reasonradionetwork.com/201205...t-empty-legacy
    The Mark Weber Report: Ronald Reagan’s Mythic But Empty Legacy

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    Just reread GardenState's of 11-15-2011 -- so true, many traitors eventually find out they can be traited against just as easily. Only a small remnant of Americans are consistent in their worldview and principles -- including us round heah, I'll warrant.

    Another tidbit on the Reagan legacy today -- he is, after all, among the illustrious signers of the Voting Rights Act 30 years ago this month. Appears in some webpages if not in his or its Wikipedia pages. Well, I saw the Act celebrated somewhere or other today online.

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