Can we Trust Generals & Politicians?

[LTC Daniel Marv]

Can We Trust Our Generals
and Politicians?
What follows is based on my
Personal Experience
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A Need to Re-Visit the Past
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<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">Should we send them into battle[/B]
<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">While Their Leaders Aid the Enemy or write them off as EXPENDABLE?[/B]
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<I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Lieutenant Colonel Daniel Marvin[/I]
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Our Armed Forces in <st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace>Iraq</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n> and <st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace>Afghanistan</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n> are fighting an enemy difficult to distinguish from those who we are told we went there to help. It is the men and women of our armed forces who are on the ground who bear the brunt of the battle and sustain the most of the casualties as the enemy employs heinous methods of terror and death tactics with no regard for the innocent, most of whom we are there to protect. They wage a fanatic war of a suicidal nature with IEDs and hit and run tactics designed to wreck havoc on the civilian population, while our soldiers and marines are denied the freedom to wage a war to win, forbidden to use those tactics necessary to destroy the enemy, and apparently not charged with locating and destroying his bases or his source of bombs, bullets and IEDs... My grandson Michael just returned from duty in <st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace>Iraq</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n> and I thank God he is back and all in one piece.
We have allowed the enemy to use mosques as shelters and weapons storage caches while we were and perhaps yet are forbidden to destroy them. Is this policy just another way of aiding the enemy and extending the war as was the case when the Communist North Vietnamese and Viet Cong were permitted safe havens in <st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace>Cambodia</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n>? Is it more important to maintain a continuing conflict, regardless of cost of people and resources to satisfy our industrial/political machine?
Every American ought to read on to comprehend the heinous nature of certain political dictates that sacrificed our fighting men and their allies while granting our enemy sanctuaries and a protected shipping routes. This is <B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">fact [/B]corroborated by one of those who did aid the enemy - the late General William C. Westmoreland- in his book <B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">A Soldier Reports[/B]. You will then<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"> [/B]be mentally equipped to<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"> [/B]understand why we lost the Vietnam Conflict and why we must be alert and aware so as not to risk a similar, costly defeat as we face the suicidal followers of Islam, intent on destroying non-Muslim governments and their forces. Remember first and foremost that it is those who carry the battle to the enemy on the ground - The Combat Infantrymen -who suffer the most in battle and who must take the ground and win the victory. We must no longer aid the enemy.
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<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">General William C. Westmoreland[/B]
<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">The Man and the Myth[/I][/B]

There are many displays and tributes to this deceased general. Instead, and follow me before you object, he should have been subjected to a general court martial for knowingly aiding the enemy in that war that took the lives of 58,000 of our men. Yes, I said <B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">knowingly aided our enemy in [/I][/B]<st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Vietnam[/I][/B]</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">.[/I][/B] If we ignore the facts of <st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace>Vietnam</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n> and if we refuse to acknowledge that our forces and allied forces were killed by that enemy whom he permitted safe haven to, we will fall prey to those who would again give comfort to the enemy in other wars.
Who is calling the shots in <st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace>Iraq</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n> and <st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace>Afghanistan</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n>? Are the generals and admirals of today, at the expense of KIAs, WIAs and MIAs bending to the dictates of a circle of men dedicated to maintaining a conflict of sufficient depth and length to satisfy the monetary lusts of industry and political power brokers?
Less than three years ago, on <st1:date Year="2003" Day="24" M&#111;nth="7">24 July 2003</st1:date>, I spoke on the telephone with General Tommy Franks at his <st1:State><st1lace>Florida</st1lace></st1:State> headquarters to let him know we were having a "<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Support the Troops Rally"[/I][/B] in <st1lace><st1:City>Cazenovia</st1:City>, <st1:State>New York</st1:State></st1lace>. This pleased the General who then, because he had to go to a meeting, turned me over to his aide, LTC Chris Goedeke. I expressed our admiration here in this upstate <st1lace><st1:PlaceName>New York</st1:PlaceName> <st1lace>Village</st1lace></st1lace> for the General and also told of my personal concern that he did not appear to have sufficient troops in his command in <st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace>Iraq</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n> to secure the population centers after they had taken the area and cleared the enemy out. I was led to believe, when told unequivocally that General Franks had only received half of the numbers of forces he had asked for to properly conduct the war that he had yielded to the desires and dictates of the Secretary of Defense. Had he knowingly ordered our forces into harm's way with insufficient men and women to realistically get the job done? One who wishes to remain anonymous advised me that the Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld's staff that developed the invasion plans for <st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace>Iraq</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n> was primarily comprised of personnel without any combat experience.
My question to those who love this great nation of ours and support the troops:

<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">Why has the world press refused to publish the truth?[/B]

General William C. Westmoreland, as Commander of all American Forces in <st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace>South Vietnam</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n> from June of 1964 through March of 1968, aided the enemy by permitting them safe havens inside the Cambodian territory and permitting that same enemy the unrestricted use of the <st1lace><st1:PlaceName>Mekong</st1:PlaceName> <st1lace>River</st1lace></st1lace> to transport war materiel through <st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace>South Vietnam</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n> to resupply their sanctuaries in <st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace>Cambodia</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n>. It seemed obvious to me, after putting all of the facts together, that General Westmoreland considered his own position, rank and place in history more important to him than the lives of American and allied military personnel, particularly the combat infantrymen, and South Vietnamese civilians. He should have demanded an end to President Lyndon Johnson’s provision of safe-havens and protected supply routes to the enemy. Lacking positive action by the President, General Westmoreland should then have resigned publicly. He could have then honestly informed the American people that he was leaving the service not wanting to be a part of the sham that was <st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace>Vietnam</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n>. He knowingly supported the enemy by enforcing the provision of safe havens and protecting shipping routes for enemy war supplies while subjecting our forces to death and injury. My four best friends are listed as KIA on <B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">The Wall[/B] – all combat infantrymen. Perhaps if they had been given the opportunity to fight on a level field of battle, they and tens of thousands of others would yet be alive and the nation of <st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace>South Vietnam</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n> would yet exist today. Corroborated proof of my direct knowledge of General Westmoreland’s acts to encourage and assist the enemy is contained in my book <B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Expendable Elite – One Soldier’s Journey Into Covert Warfare.[/I][/B] A signed copy of the second edition, to be published in July 2006, may be ordered in advance by going to the publisher's website at www.ExpendableElite.com or by calling 1-800-556-2012.
On page 180 of General Westmoreland’s nonfiction book <B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">A Soldier Reports [/I][/B]© 1976, Doubleday &amp; Company, Inc. he states rather matter-of-factly and very clearly that "<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">the enemy’s obvious use of [/I][/B]<st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Cambodia[/I][/B]</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"> as a sanctuary and refusal of [/I][/B]<st1:State><st1lace><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Washington[/I][/B]</st1lace></st1:State><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"> authorities to allow me to do anything about it was frustrating.[/I]"[/B] He went on to write of the proof of major shipments of arms and other supplies "<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">reaching the VC via international shipping passing through South Vietnam up the Mekong..."[/I][/B] It may have been “frustrating” to General Westmoreland, but his lack of action to deny the enemy sanctuaries and a protected supply route was indeed deadly to many tens of thousands of fighting men who depended on him for leadership. From what I was told by officers in <st1lace>Saigon</st1lace> in 1966, General Westmoreland couldn't have been too frustrated or he would have denied himself the playful pleasures of a daily tennis routine.
Strangely enough, on pager 261 of that same book that he wrote, General Westmoreland tells of a quotation of Napoleon Bonaparte that was "under a panel on [his] desk." The quote:
"<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">A commander-in-chief cannot take as an excuse for his mistakes in warfare an order by his sovereign or his minister, when the person giving the order is absent from the field of operations and is imperfectly aware or wholly unaware of the latest state of affairs. It follows that any commander-in-chief who undertakes to carry out a plan which he considers defective is at fault; he must put forward his reasons, insist on the plan being changed, and finally tender his resignation rather than be the instrument of his army’s downfall[/I][/B]."
Why then, I wonder, did he not resign and go public asking the American people to demand we be allowed to win that war?
The lack of strong moral leadership in this four star general is typified by his own admission in his book on page 181: "<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">For long all we could do to the enemy in [/I][/B]<st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Cambodia[/I][/B]</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"> was drop propaganda leaflets on our side of the border whenever the wind was right to blow them across[/I][/B]." And, he states unequivocally, "<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">My every request to inform the world press of the enemy’s use of [/I][/B]<st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Cambodia[/I][/B]</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n><B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"> was denied...[/I]"<I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"> [/I][/B]
I question his having permitted the “enemy’s use of <st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace>Cambodia</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n>,” and liken it to "tying our soldiers’ hands behind their backs" as they were ordered into battle. Westmoreland didn’t take that matter forward as the sole rationale for his resignation from the military service?
In 1983, Presidio Press published LTC Charles M. Simpson’s book, <B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Inside the Green Berets. [/I][/B]Included in this book is the account of how LTC Dick Ruble, a member of General Westmoreland’s Intelligence staff, denied the Special Forces Group commander access to intelligence (“code word” documents) as retribution for Special Forces’ denying MACV non-airborne personnel access to Special Forces Camps (see page 181). The Special Forces Group had been excluded purposely from their distribution list and would include intelligence gathered by CIA resources. Many of those resources were highly classified and compartmentalized, according to my source, who understandably wishes to remain anonymous.
Directly related to this denial of critical combat intelligence, was a time of solemn remembrance one summer afternoon in 1988 when I stepped through the doors of the <st1lace><st1:PlaceName><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Special[/I]</st1:PlaceName><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"> [/I]<st1:PlaceName><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Warfare[/I]</st1:PlaceName><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"> [/I]<st1lace><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Museum[/I]</st1lace></st1lace><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal"> [/I]on Smoke Bomb Hill at <st1lace><st1:City>Fort Bragg</st1:City>, <st1:State>North Carolina</st1:State></st1lace>, wanting to revisit my past. The Green Berets were, after all, a very special organization that would and could tackle any mission, anytime, anywhere and get the job done. No task was too dangerous or too difficult: “The impossible just takes a little longer” was an expression we used often As we approached the truth of surviving combat that is the way of life for a combat infantryman.
I was enjoying the many and varied exhibits in that small, but awesome collection of unconventional warfare memorabilia until I was stopped in my tracks in front of an exhibit honoring none other than General Westmoreland. I understand fully that one soldier should not despise another, but that singular word best describes my feeling for that one military man who aided and abetted the enemy in the <st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace>Vietnam</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n> conflict, the same enemy that had killed my four best friends. All of them were Green Berets and had earned the CIB.
There is a special story about my best friend, Special Forces Master Sergeant Gerard V. Parmentier. His name now engraved on the WALL, having been killed in action his fifth time in combat in the SE Asian War Theater. Jerry, a combat infantryman, along with a number of their South Vietnamese irregulars were KIA in a pitched battle with Viet Cong insurgents on <st1:date Year="1967" Day="17" M&#111;nth="8">17 August 1967</st1:date> near Dak To, <st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace>South Vietnam</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n>. Worst of all, perhaps, is the fact that they were also unsuspecting victims of a power struggle between General William C. Westmoreland’s headquarters and the Special Forces Group commander.
Jerry's son Albert, a Green Beret himself, was serving in a neighboring Special Forces camp when he got word that his father had been killed. After learning details of the battle and its aftermath from his father’s commanding officer, Albert accompanied his Father’s body back to the United States where he was interred with military honors, including a Special Forces Color Guard, at Rosecrans National Cemetery in San Diego where he could "watch the ships go back and forth" - his personal request to me and his wife Rose before he left for that final combat tour.
After the funeral I spoke with Albert and he confirmed what I’d suspected regarding the cause of Jerry's death. He had been told by his father's commanding officer that Jerry’s unit had met defeat and suffered heavy casualties, with most KIAs due to withheld intelligence. The enemy force that killed Jerry was many times the strength that had been gleaned from available intelligence. That fact, in and of itself, was not uncommon in war, particularly in a counter-insurgency situation. What was unusual and unforgivable in my judgment, was the fact that the enemy's strength was known to General Westmoreland’s staff but purposely withheld from the Special Forces. Hard to believe? Yes, and I would rather it had been a lie. But those facts were told Albert by Jerry’s commander before he left <st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace>Vietnam</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n> to escort his father’s body to the <st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace>US</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n>. Albert told me that he would go into more detail for the book I was writing about Special Forces in <st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace>South Vietnam</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n>, but would wait until his mother died as it would hurt too much for her to know the truth. Shortly after Jerry’s widow Rose passed away and after she was buried in <st1lace><st1:City>Providence</st1:City>, <st1:State>Rhode Island</st1:State></st1lace>, I spoke with Albert and told him of my need to obtain his signed statement telling of the facts of his father’s death for evidence which I would then use to demand an investigation and a public disclosure of facts. He refused, telling me that after he'd retired from the U.S. Army he went to work for the “company” (the CIA) and was then conveniently forbidden from disclosing any knowledge relating to the CIA part in his father's death. No sense arguing, the cards were stacked against the truth.
My book, <B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Expendable Elite – One Soldier’s Journey Into Covert Warfare,[/I][/B] contains much detail regarding General Westmoreland’s refusal to demand an end to the enemy’s safe-havens in <st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace>Cambodia</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n> and his lack of courage. He was given the opportunity to go before Congress and tell them that American and Allied forces and innocent civilians were being killed and maimed by the enemy operating out of the “sanctuaries” that President Johnson had provided against the wishes of then South Vietnamese Premier Nguyen Cao <st1:State><st1lace>Ky.</st1lace></st1:State> He admits to these failures in his book <B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">A Soldier Reports. [/I][/B]
Another fact of life in <st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace>South Vietnam</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n> at the time I served as a Green Beret in An Phu and Chau Doc was the lack of routine resupply of Special Forces units in the delta area by General Westmoreland’s Army depot in <st1lace>Saigon</st1lace>. This was a great cause of concern to me when I moved to Team B-42 in <st1lace><st1:PlaceName>Chau</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceName>Doc</st1:PlaceName> <st1lace>City</st1lace></st1lace> and assumed responsibility for logistical support of Special Forces in the C-4 region of IV Corps Tactical Zone. In fact we ended up borrowing an LCU, going down river from Chau Doc to the Saigon Depot where we borrowed two of the depot’s 2½ ton trucks and drove past fearful guards to pick from the depots stock what we desperately needed. We loaded sand bags, small generators, pallets of ammunition and other miscellaneous “stuff” on their trucks and then onto the LCU and traversed the Mekong and Bassac Rivers back to Chau Doc, unloaded at the B Team dock and returned the LCU to where it was originally moored. Could this be corroborated? Yes - Within a year of my return to the <st1:country-regi&#111;n><st1lace>United States</st1lace></st1:country-regi&#111;n> I was attending the US Army Quartermaster Career Course at <st1lace><st1:City>Fort Lee</st1:City>, <st1:State>Virginia</st1:State></st1lace>. Colonel Pieklik, the commander of the Saigon Depot at the time we were forced to steal those supplies, was courses' final guest speaker. He stood in front of our class and opened the floor to questions at the end of his prepared presentation. I, as class president, fielded the first question: Why had he shut off the supplying of our Green Beret camps in IV Tactical Zone in1966? I was impressed with the fact that he answered unequivocally, telling our class that the reason his depot was not supplying the Special Forces needs in the IV Tactical Zone (the entire delta area) was that General Westmoreland had personally ordered him not to. He explained how Westmoreland’s futile attempts to convince the Commanding General of IV Tactical Zone (Lieutenant General Quang Van Dang) of the need to permit the use of conventional American forces in the delta had angered him to the extent that he denied logistical support of all unconventional forces in the Delta area.
Is this the General Westmoreland you have pictured in the past? Interestingly enough, General Westmoreland’s personal Analysis of America’s Unique Experience in Vietnam, titled <B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">As I Saw it and Now See It [/I][/B]© 1988<B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"> [/B](Go to http://members.aol.com/USAHeroes/wcw2.htm) <B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">[/B]contains NO reference to the safe havens or protected shipping he permitted our enemy during his watch. Most likely he regretted admitting his sin in his first book. I'm glad he did!
Interestingly enough, this past January, the Special Forces Association paid all of the expenses for plaintiffs who sued me and publisher Kris Millegan of TrineDay Press in the Federal Court in <st1lace><st1:City>Charleston</st1:City>, <st1:State>South Carolina</st1:State></st1lace> for $700,000.00. This was a vain attempt to silence the truth of what is written in my book <B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Expendable Elite – One Soldier’s Journey Into Covert Warfare. [/I][/B]The five day trial resulted in a unanimous verdict that cleared Kris and me by an eight person jury who deliberated for less than two hours and that time included a lunch break.
The first edition of my book, <B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">Expendable Elite - One Soldier's Journey Into Covert Warfare [/I][/B]has been sold out. A second edition will be published in June 2006 with a dynamic Foreword written by Douglas Valentine, author of <B style="mso-bidi-font-weight: normal"><I style="mso-bidi-font-style: normal">The Phoenix Program [/I][/B](a world renowned expert on CIA assassination programs). Two additional chapters dealing with the lawsuit and the trial that followed will be included the second edition. You may reserve a copy of this new paperback edition for $19.95 by calling the publisher, Trine Day, at 800-556-2012. Those who reserve and make payment in advance will receive a signed copy of the new edition.
It is up to all Americans who enjoy the freedom that our armed forces risk their lives to assure that freedom insist that our political and military leadership permit them a level battlefield.
I have two grandsons in the military one is Air Force and has served one tour in Iraq - another is with the 82nd Airborne Division and will go to Iraq qith his Brigade next month. I pray our leadership is honorable by that time.

©2006 LTC Daniel Marvin, US Army Special Forces (Retired)

[John T. Dilberger]

Sir,


I read your post and I have to say that I believe you're out of order here. While I agree with you that Gen. westmorland wasn't up to his job, I don't think he was a dishonorable man. He was just imcompetant. Probably, his incompetance had a lot to do with his being picked for the job hehe had in the first place.


I also served in that war and lost friends but that doesn't mean that I impune the names of the leadership. As you know, this type of thing happens all the time. whether it be unshared intelligence,not enough gear, bad ammo, etc.


Move on Sir, we've got a new war going on in this country, far more important than that warthat endedall those years ago.


Respectfully - John T. Dilberger

[Nelson]

via email.


From: "m reed" comstan@hotmail.com
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Nukes over the US, Military Brass fired, Iran in the crosshairs &amp; Is there a sign on my back that says, 'kick me'?
Does martial law and emergency merging of Norh America follow all this? First, theprospect of 'accidentally moving nukes' (sort of like accidentally moving my refrigerator down the street) complete with the ceremonial bloodletting of the fall guy--scapegoat--who only did his job with btw El Presidento's"personal Presidential authorization codeused forthe removal of[six] 150 kiloton nuclear warheads from their secure nuclear storage safes." Not only that but then hanging them out on the wings for display!? 'Gee-these things usea lotta gas, maybe we should just drop a couple to lighten our load!?'

Come on--Do Americans look like goofy? Do govt officals really think we'll buy this 'accident'? Several scenarios could emerge from this debacle, 1) it was really a ploy to draw 'fire' from the enemy so we could get'em red handed, thus exposing those traitors in high places in this land in the process, 2) The head football carrier thought it would be a way to show our brass knuckles, and put the skeer on'em, 3) Since Barksdale is a pre-stage area for mid-east action, prepare for CD drills for real in those nuclear bunkers built so long ago cause the Ayatollah is going to meet some virgins! Iran is in the croshairs so it appears.
The way this administration is run you would think that the three stooges were back in the form of two stooges, and the keystone cops were bringing in alerts from all over the world for them to respond to. Americans are a tolerant bunch, much more so than our forebearers.
The consequences of a charade of this scope are incredible but knowing and seeing what has come out of this group not unexpected in some ways. Fact is, perhaps multi-millions of Americans were just used as pawns on the big chess board to show how follish the leadership in this country now is. Certainly, we know these things are moved from time to time, but 'accidentally', I don't think so. More likely a ploy by an egalitarian president and neo-con bozo strategists to finish off all pretense of liberty, announce their real intentions ofa New (old) World Order and be done with America as we have known it.
Intelligence reports have military brasspointing fingers at Busch,while the state of Israel 'drops ammunition' over Syria. Too many loose cannons on deck will eventually get a hole blown in your deck. I've already had more water on the deck than I like. That couldsignal Tea Time soon. MR
<H1>Air Force official fired after 6 nukes fly over U.S.</H1>
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WASHINGTON - A B-52 bomber was mistakenly armed with six nuclear warheads and flown for more than three hours across several states last week, prompting an Air Force investigation and the firing of one commander, Pentagon officials said Wednesday.
Rep. Ike Skelton, chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, called the mishandling of the weapons “deeply disturbing” and said the committee would press the military for details...............</DIV></DIV>

[Nelson]

Followup to the above!


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Subject: U.S. Based Air Force Fighters &amp; Bombers Ordered To Stand Down </DIV></DIV>
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SHIPMENT OF LIVE NUCLEAR WARHEADS FROM NORTH DAKOTA TO LOUISIANA WAS NO MISTAKE</DIV>
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<H4>THE LIVE WARHEADS WERE REMOVED FROM THEIR SECURE NUCLEAR STORAGE SAFES AFTER ENTRY AND CONFIRMATION OF PRESIDENTIAL AUTHORIZATION! </H4>
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Reports that five nuclear warheads were "accidentally" shipped by B-52 from Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota to Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana are false. It was no mistake; it was a criminal conspiracy to launch nuclear terrorist attacks against five U.S. cities!

Military investigators have confirmed to The HalTurner Show that President Bush 's personal Presidential authorization code authorized the removal of five 150 kiloton nuclear warheads from their secure nuclear storage safes.

Those Investigators also confirmed that the cruise missiles in which those warheads were placed, were mounted on the wings of the B-52 and not placed in the belly of the plane with other missiles headed for decommissioning.

When those nuclear cruise missiles arrived at BarksdaleAFB, Investigators say plans were made to move those warheads off the base, allowing them to be used for what was to be a massive, nuclear "terrorist" strike against five U.S. cities. They speculate the attacks would have been blamed on AL-Qaida and used as an excuse to impose Martial Law in the U.S.

Government officials are scrambling to silence this investigation becuase it proves definitively that President George W. Bush was personally complicit in planning terrorist attacks against his own country for the purpose of declaring Martial law, merging the United States with other countries after we've been "crippled" by massive nuclear attacks, implementing "one world government" to "prevent anything like this from ever happening again" and, of course, remaining in power forever as absolute Dictator.

Elements inside the U.S. Military are aggressively seeking to arrest President Bush while top Brass in the military is doing everything possible to quash the crisis.

They leaked this information to me because efforts to "spin" and cover-up what really happened are overwhelming righteous efforts to hold the President accountable for his acts.

Investigators have been removed from the case and re-assigned. All have been threatened with arrest and prison if they reveal what they know.

Investigators have told The HalTurner Show "the scope and grandeur of this conspiracy is so vast, so intertwined in the upper echelons of military and political power, that it is almost impossible to believe."

They went on to say that career Military Brass are putting their own personal interests (careers and pensions) ahead of national security because they are terrified of the consequences of this situation being made public.

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<H2>ALL U.S. BASED AIR FORCE FIGHTERS AND BOMBERS ORDERED TO "STAND DOWN" ON SEPTEMBER 14 </H2>
<H4>CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES WILL HAVE ZERO AIR DEFENSES ON THAT DAY!</H4>
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Despite our own CIA Director making a rare public speech claiming Al-Qaida is planning "high-impact attacks against the U.S. Homeland" our Air Force has taken steps to make our entire country vulnerable to such attacks on September 14.

In an order given to all fighter pilots and bomber pilots, the entire U.S. Air Force will "stand down" on Friday September 14. We will have ZERO air defense for the entire country on that day!

They have ordered this stand down after five nuclear bombs were "accidentally shipped by plane from Minot AFB in North Dakota to BartsdaleAFB in Louisiana on a B-52 bomber. The military says they need to stand down to go over nuclear protocols.

What is very odd about this order is that Fighter jets NEVER carry nuclear bombs. Only Bombers carry nuclear warheads. So why are fighter pilots also being ordered to stand down?

If a terrorist attack takes place on September 14, then we know that our own government made it possible with a military stand-down order.

If such an attack takes place, We The People of the United States will be left with no choice but to exercise our "orginal right of self defense" and remove our government from power by any and all means necessary, barring nothing.

Those in government are hereby warned: If your stand down order allows a terrorist attack to occur, we will come for you.
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<H2>CIA DIRECTOR MAKES RARE PUBLIC ADDRESS</H2>
<H4>WARNS "AL-QAIDA PLANNING HIGH-IMPACT ATTACKS AGAINST U.S. HOMELAND"</H4>
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In order to help facilitate those attacks, the United States has ordered all fighter jets and Bombers to "stand-down" on September 14, 2007 . Once again, our entire nation will be utterly defenseless against a terrorist attack - just like we were on September 11.

The US Government was complicit in the attacks of September 11 and they are setting us up for another round of attacks by standing-down the air force on September 14.

If an attack happens on that date, we will be inclined to retaliate against those who are "truly" responsible. "They" know who they are. So do we.
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WASHINGTON, Sept. 19, 1997 – Defense Secretary William S. Cohen ordered the military services to stop training flights for 24 hours so those who work on and fly military aircraft can focus on making flying safer.


Cohen 's Sept. 17 order was in response to a spate of unrelated accidents. Even with these accidents, DoD expects fiscal 1997 to be among the safest on record.


"Perfection is impossible, but that is our goal for aviation safety," Cohen said. "Every member of our aviation community is working for zero accidents. The lives of our aircrews and passengers are very precious, and each loss is a great tragedy."


The stand down will take place at the discretion of the services, but must be completed by Sept. 26. Cohen's order covers fixed-wing aircraft and helicopters.


While Cohen's order does not affect operations, Air Force, Navy and Marine Corps aviation commanders said they hope to make the stand down as broad as possible and will include squadrons flying operations. Units flying over Bosnia, Iraq and Korea, for example, will stagger their stand downs so the missions can continue.


The Army has not finished its guidance, but Pentagon spokesman KenBacon said it will be largely similar to the other services.


The stand down comes after a cluster of crashes. The Air Force lost an F-117 stealth fighter Sept. 13 at a Baltimore air show. The apparent collision of a German air force transport and a U.S. Air Force C-141 Starlifter off the coast of Africa Sept. 13 killed 33, including nine Americans. A Marine Corps F/A-18 Hornet fighter crashed off the coast of North Carolina Sept. 15, killing the two-man crew. A Navy F/A-18 went down in Oman Sept. 14. Finally, two New Jersey Air National Guard F-16s collided over the Atlantic Sept. 16; one crashed into the sea, the other made it back to land.


Pentagon officials said they do not believe there is a common thread running through these accidents. "It is a cruelty of statistics that we have clusters [of accidents] from time to time," Bacon said Sept. 18.


Even with these crashes, fiscal 1997 will be among the safest years on record, according to DoD officials. With little less than two weeks left in the year, they said, the accident rate should be about 1.5 major accidents per 100,000 flying hours. In absolute numbers, DoD lost 54 aircraft through Sept. 18. In fiscal 1996, it lost 67.


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